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  1. #291
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    Rawrz's Avatar
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    Sir Rawrz
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    Gilgamesh
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Yasuhiro View Post
    Bolded Nostalgia because what?
    And then you go on to say stuff like "someone's dream job" If they loved Blue Mage in other FF games and want to see it in XIV then that surely means they love it because of what the Blue Mage is all about. Just call the job something else if they're not going to stay true to it.
    Nostalgia, because people are clinging onto concepts that they associate positive memories with. It worked amazing in the last game, what if something goes wrong? Classes evolve and change. As I said, summoner is a perfect example. They are a disease based caster, with a pet. Where are the long winded cut scenes? They were adapted to fit within final fantasy. Every class changes every variation of final fantasy. Skills get omitted, re-classed, and mechanics are added. People don't want blue, mostly because of how you will level it, not how the experience would be end game. When was the last time you leveled your main class? Probably been a while since you've been capped.

    I get people don't want to ruin their rosie perfect image with something new, but changes and adaptations give you new ways to experience the class. If you don't like the class they make, don't play it.
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  2. #292
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    Iromi's Avatar
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    Tilla Eversong
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Rawrz View Post
    I get people don't want to ruin their rosie perfect image with something new, but changes and adaptations give you new ways to experience the class. If you don't like the class they make, don't play it.
    I am going to take a wild guess by your join date you are not from the 1.x days? Well, as a Summoner main since release...I don't like it and here is why. In 1.x days on the forum, Yoshida put forth player polls...asking us who funded 2.0 development what we wanted. You can google to see the polls. Anyway..the most voted for class was SUMMONER / PET CLASS. Now..does summoner feel like a pet class? NO, not one bit!!! It is not about the pet AT ALL...the pet just sits there and does hardly anything and the job is a poison mage. It is a fine job on its own..but it is not what we wanted and voted for. Has nothing to do with "nostalgia" or whatever. It is about getting what we were promised.

    A class about the pets.
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  3. #293
    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Bastilaa Shan
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    Excalibur
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    They pretty much took Arcanist from BDFF and expanded on the inflict status effects to do massive damage idea. And then made a copy paste of WoW's Warlock. They named it after Summoner after grafting inconsequential "Pets" to it. Makes me kinda wish we got a true to form Necromancer class.

    I wager a lot more thought was given to Scholar and it really shows.
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  4. #294
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    Iromi's Avatar
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    Tilla Eversong
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    Siren
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    They pretty much took Arcanist from BDFF and expanded on the inflict status effects to do massive damage idea. And then made a copy paste of WoW's Warlock. They named it after Summoner after grafting inconsequential "Pets" to it. Makes me kinda wish we got a true to form Necromancer class.

    I wager a lot more thought was given to Scholar and it really shows.
    Yeah, agreed. A necro class would be awesome too. That would be a brand new FF job I think...wish they would do it ; ; I'd totally play it lol
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  5. #295
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    Thunda_Cat_SMASH's Avatar
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    Sylvana Tenebri
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    Malboro
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    Marauder Lv 79
    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    I wager a lot more thought was given to Scholar and it really shows.
    I'll disagree. Scholar doesn't feel particularly well built, as far as their job specific options and abilities go, at least in my opinion.
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  6. #296
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    Cidel's Avatar
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    Cidel Paratonnerre
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    Hyperion
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    I still stand by the belief that BLU can exist in XIV and retain its general identity (monster skills). If it ends up in XIV, there is no likely way it's going to be learning any of its spells in whatever order you please and what you learn will be scripted all the way to level cap just like any other job. The real question is what role the devs would want it to fill, as with Redmage and Samurai.
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  7. #297
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    Laerune's Avatar
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    Yu Zeneolsia
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    Ragnarok
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Cidel View Post
    I still stand by the belief that BLU can exist in XIV and retain its general identity (monster skills). If it ends up in XIV, there is no likely way it's going to be learning any of its spells in whatever order you please and what you learn will be scripted all the way to level cap just like any other job. The real question is what role the devs would want it to fill, as with Redmage and Samurai.
    Wouldnt tank work?

    Make it so the Blue Mage of the FFXIV universe use a skill where one uses self defense to deflect the attacks of the enemies and while countering alot, they learned to copy the attack and use it against the enemies.

    They could make it so that aside from the job quests, the remaining skills can only be obtained by feeling the pain from monsters. This will encourage eploration, because all the new Blue Mages will explore the world and fight monsters in the hopes of learning a skill. Blue Mages will exchange information and for a while this will encourage players to interact in open-world stuff. They can even make S class hunt mobs have some of the skills. Aslong as they make the Blue Mage a class that is locked behind a level cap, like for example a player needs to have a level 50 class to unlock the Blue Mage, this will make it so newcomers wont be stuck with this class.

    This way we could have a Blue Mage tank who learns the enemy attack by receiving it. Lets face it, who doesnt want to play as a duelwielding scimitar tank?
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    Last edited by Laerune; 05-15-2016 at 03:27 AM.

  8. #298
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    FallenArisen0990's Avatar
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    Anarista Tarnyang
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 80
    I still hoping for my Vampire Class. I'll even take the Yokai Class. You make make every Job Quest give me a Monster Ability the others are gain from Lvlin up. I mean hell, Yokai use the Echo Ability. Bam, already Lore Friendly! I needz my BLU job SE. I need my Job badly!
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  9. #299
    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Bastilaa Shan
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    Excalibur
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by FallenArisen0990 View Post
    I still hoping for my Vampire Class. I'll even take the Yokai Class. You make make every Job Quest give me a Monster Ability the others are gain from Lvlin up. I mean hell, Yokai use the Echo Ability. Bam, already Lore Friendly! I needz my BLU job SE. I need my Job badly!
    Catmancer let's go. I mean half the population is a Miqote so why not right?
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  10. #300
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    Yasuhiro's Avatar
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    Marie Antoinette
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    Kujata
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    Conjurer Lv 76
    Quote Originally Posted by Rawrz View Post
    If you don't like the class they make, don't play it.
    This YouTube/reddit tier response again you see everywhere.
    No shit, ofcourse I wont be playing it, doesn't mean I'm not going to comment on it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Laerune View Post
    Wouldnt tank work?

    Make it so the Blue Mage of the FFXIV universe use a skill where one uses self defense to deflect the attacks of the enemies and while countering alot, they learned to copy the attack and use it against the enemies.
    Does this game have reflect yet? Because that could be a shield oath type spell for the Blue Mage
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    Last edited by Yasuhiro; 05-15-2016 at 12:54 PM.

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