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  1. #151
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    Clansman2016's Avatar
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    Kyudokai Thornbow
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    Diabolos
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    Bard Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffernuff View Post
    honestly for low level first time tanking, i would highly suggest drk if you have a 60. unleash+blood weapon gives you a very reliable AoE tanking base the other 2 dont have pre-30, and translates very well to gladiator with flash and riot blade
    It's interesting you mention that. I really like the look and feel of the DRK, however, I was reading a beginners tanking guide that said it's was highly advised to learn to tank using one of the other tanks before switching to DRK. If that's not the case, then I'll certainly give that a go, as DRK was my end game plan for tank .
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  2. #152
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    ShaolinMike's Avatar
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    Michael Stormcloud
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Running leveling roulette to finish up my PLD: A 10 wipe Sohm Ahl run with a MCH and NIN. 4 wipes on dinosaur boss because NIN couldn't target the damn blob for LB and their DPS wasn't high enough to burn him. Followed by 6 wipes on final boss because they couldn't grasp the concept of baiting the comets to the back of the room, then getting out of the way. Followed by an abandon...An hour+ of my time with no bonus XP. FML
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  3. #153
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    Fluffernuff's Avatar
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    Aethys Aeon
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    Goblin
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Clansman2016 View Post
    It's interesting you mention that. I really like the look and feel of the DRK, however, I was reading a beginners tanking guide that said it's was highly advised to learn to tank using one of the other tanks before switching to DRK. If that's not the case, then I'll certainly give that a go, as DRK was my end game plan for tank .
    i feel i should expand a little then. what i mean to say is... pre level 30, DRK is absolutely free to spam unleash (their AoE emnity generator).they have a skill, blood weapon, a buff that boosts mp generation and you also have syphon strike, a weaponskill combo that generates MP as an added effect. these stack. basically, you can unleash until MP is dry, blood weapon, and repeat the process. is simple. its easy. its hand-holding. thats why i recommend it for a first time tank. you can hold aggro and have your training wheels to branch out and learn.

    This can also translate to gladiator/ paladin because flash and riot blade work in a similar fashion, though alot less effective since they dont have the MP generation buff from blood weapon. I've personally been able to hold AoE aggro on undergeared alts on different servers by spamming flash and using 1 or 2 riot blades in order to be able to flash again. though this might be more from experience rather than something i should be recommending to new tanks. riot blade itself doesnt generate emnity so its not a great tanking tool on its own. almost useless in sastasha levels, really.

    however, that strategy starts to fall apart after level 30, especially so for DRK because their stances drain and limit your MP generation. so what you heard isnt exactly wrong either.
    I find that recommendation comes from the fact that dark knight unlocks once you reach heavenward content. that is post-level 50 content. so you should realistically have your "main" up to that point be a tank so that you have the gear, cross class skills, and knowledge to just jump into DRK without needing a talk like this. i would also advocate for having the other tanks at least leveled. if not for the tanking experience, for the cross class skills. theyre not the greatest picks for DRK, but youre gonna need things like provoke or convalescence
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    Last edited by Fluffernuff; 05-14-2016 at 05:37 AM.

  4. #154
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    Anienai's Avatar
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    Anienai Talenca
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    Zalera
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    Marauder Lv 100
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    The price of solving everything is everything.
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    Roe, no question. Why be a kitten when you can be a goddess?

  5. #155
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    Alien_Gamer's Avatar
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    Cynehild Westknight
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    Jenova
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    Warrior Lv 96
    Quote Originally Posted by Clansman2016 View Post
    It's interesting you mention that. I really like the look and feel of the DRK, however, I was reading a beginners tanking guide that said it's was highly advised to learn to tank using one of the other tanks before switching to DRK. If that's not the case, then I'll certainly give that a go, as DRK was my end game plan for tank .
    What those guides are probably getting at is GLD and MAR both start at lv 1 and your first dungeon is Sastasha at 15 giving you 15 levels of practice before you can even get into a dungeon where aggro matters. DRK starts at lv 30 and you can immediately jump into a dungeon without having a clue, not only that, but you also run the risk of getting a (relatively) more difficult dungeon as your first dungeon if you go into roulette.

    That said, the basics of tanking are the same between the three classes. Knowing how to pull, position, use cool downs, etc isn't specific to one tank class. If you know how to tank it doesn't matter which one you tank on really; its just a matter of reading your skills and learning how to apply them. If you start as DRK, just take some time to learn your skills before jumping into a dungeon and you'll be fine.
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  6. #156
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    kaox_reaper's Avatar
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    Zeromuz T'zur
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    Behemoth
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Grey_D94 View Post
    This little story just happened no more than about an hour ago. Stone Vigil Hard Mode, PUG from a Duty Roulette.
    I laughed so much I cried. Thank you.
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  7. #157
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    Thatz's Avatar
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    Albireo Asterios
    World
    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    Titan EX. It's very simple, just requires quick reflexes to dodging AoE. Healers and almost all DPS were amazing. The thing is the tank kept dying XD i checked the other tanks gear beforehand and they clearly out geared me, as I was still using decent leveling gear. So I asked who wanted to MT. He said he would and went off to attack. Everyone reacted fast so it was no problem. After he got the third stack of vulnerability we swapped tanking. Instead of just doing dmg and helping DDs he stood by the DDs and kept using voke and all his tank abilities. Eventually the party would wipe cause everyone but me. Had vulnerability down and Titan made quick work of them XD
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  8. #158
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    azazelhelix's Avatar
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    Azazel Helix
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    Jenova
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    well this one was a while ago,

    So just started the game and I tried most of classes then I stick with mrd, keep it up and get war. continue until stone vigil. I jump in and it does the new player thing. I comment to party that im new. and next thing I know the healer wasn't even around and taking damage!? so I run ahead to see him attacking shit, I quickly pull and hold hate. after that mob we rush of to the next one just to get killed cause of no heals. I run up again and start trying to hold hate. dies again, and every one just seem to keep going. So I ask the healer, yo what are you doing? you trying to speed run? ... yeah so hurry up! ... um I don't think us dying is helping us get through any sooner. next thing I know I was kicked out. and the best part the healer was a mentor.
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  9. #159
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    Bluehaired Bigdude
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    Coeurl
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    White Mage Lv 60
    Qarn. Every time. I hate tanking it.
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  10. #160
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    Metalwrath's Avatar
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    Rhulk Roegan
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    Raiden
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Clansman2016 View Post
    It's interesting you mention that. I really like the look and feel of the DRK, however, I was reading a beginners tanking guide that said it's was highly advised to learn to tank using one of the other tanks before switching to DRK. If that's not the case, then I'll certainly give that a go, as DRK was my end game plan for tank .
    You Should always start off on one of the other classes.I reccomend playing both gladiator and marauder up to lvl 30 before going near dark.
    By just hopping onto Dark as first tank is just so wrong in so many ways.Leveling up both Marauder and gladiator to lvl 30 means you will have access to most of their cross crass skills you can use on Dark.Not just that but it will give you tanking experience with mechanics and dungeons before Haukke manor,By useing both classes you will also get the feel of tanking with a character who has strong aoe agro and one that has to focus more with use of single target skills.
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