Xeno believes paladin should NEVER be main tank

[Reynhart]

A (somewhat)fair trade off for requiring up to 5 other skills to achieve a similar effect in terms of survival no?

It could be, if WAR didn't keep all other mitigation tools ready for action, generally with shorter cooldown than PLD and DRK.
Especially when one of the above is designed to be "The mitigation tank". (Three guesses which one it is, the first two don't count )

War doesn't have a second tank cross class because it IS the second class cross class lol. Convalescence, Foresight, Awareness, and Bloodbath weren't mentioned since they're universal across all 3 tanks minus traits.

Second wind can still save you or give the healer the few seconds it could need to bring you back on foot. And it costs nothing. As a DRK, I'd rather have LNC than MRD as a cross-class, to refill my TP or improve my parry rate.
(And deal more damage as an OT with BfB, but shhhhh )

[FallenWings]

It could be, if WAR didn't keep all other mitigation tools ready for action, generally with shorter cooldown than PLD and DRK.
Especially when one of the above is designed to be "The mitigation tank". (Three guesses which one it is, the first two don't count )

I don't know man, Vengeance and Thrill of Battle seem to be my only real options because I want Raw Intuition for Berserk and I don't know what Defiance and Inner Beast are anymore. Holmgang still has other flaws such as requiring a target, being rooted, a shorter duration, and only invincibility at 1 HP. But those flaws rarely surface in most encounters so I guess it's still pretty broke.

I guess it can't be helped that Warriors are so perfect. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Sheltron and Dark Mind are still pretty sick since they don't require ShO/Grit so you can say PLD/DRK can tank better in their offensive stance. Maybe.

[Reynhart]

I guess it can't be helped that Warriors are so perfect. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Sheltron and Dark Mind are still pretty sick since they don't require ShO/Grit so you can say PLD/DRK can tank better in their offensive stance. Maybe.

Imagine if, as a PLD, I could Cover you with my mitigation tools for more Tankbusters, while staying in SwO since I'm not really taking damage apart from that, and allowing you to stay in Deliverance, since you won't take those big hits anymore.
Seriously, everybody wins there !

[Gameplayzero]

Just on the “video topic making subject alone”.

Mr.Happy has been known to make long and complicated videos about the game fights, without all the right facts and rushing his videos for that YouTube cash grab. He gained his popularity because at the time he was the

to be fair his recent videos haven't been like this. They are around the same length as everyone else's and is far more detailed. I never liked misteq even when happy made super long guides because she always tried to summarize stuff quickly. Now I dislike her guides even further thanks to what you mentioned. I'd rather have long videos that go into every nuance than vids that miss information just in general.

again off topic I apologize, but just wanted to clear things up.

[Instrumentality]

I dunno, man.

Any fight where the damage is largely physical and can be solo tanked I'd take a PLD MT over any other tank any day. A7S this tier for example.

[Ragnorak]

I have been a WAR main up until joining my current group some months ago in which I'm now PLD. My main beefs with PLD is the fact that my oaths cost me mana and my Clemency cost me 2k mana SE pls! Other than that I enjoy PLD in savage and am having a blast in A7S.

[HatsoonMike]

DRK MT WAR OT is the best combination in any situation, why is this even a topic?
Also, I don't understand why so many people listen to Xeno and follow his words as gospel. He's decent at the game but not very smart, and a below average tank.

[Iromi]

DRK MT WAR OT is the best combination in any situation, why is this even a topic?
Also, I don't understand why so many people listen to Xeno and follow his words as gospel. He's decent at the game but not very smart, and a below average tank.

Hey I think I see you post on guildwork...with the funny pic lmao XD But yea I agree with you. It is sad to see haha..

[SpookyGhost]

DRK MT WAR OT is the best combination in any situation, why is this even a topic?

Only if you view everything in a vacuum of "what's the highest pure DPS output from 2 tank jobs". Encounters aren't so black and white, though. Even just in the combo of DRK + WAR, WAR MT can be significantly safer for progression due to IB's potential up time and Equilibrium, along with the more versatile CD suite. If we look back at A4S, WAR had better tools for handling Nisi than DRK did while still being able to handle MT duties. Layla Bell, the WAR from Elysium, discussed in this video (unfortunately I don't have the time atm to pick through it and find the part where he talks about it, but its in there somewhere) the advantages of WAR MT for the core if you're interested in finding out more about that. It's also important to consider that SE seems to be going back to the Savage SCoB philosophy of forcing both tanks to do tanking things, so often it comes down to "who is the best tank for this mechanic" and "who is the best tank for that mechanic", you can see it pretty clearly in A6S but it's littered throughout all of Gordias and most of Midas (A5S and A7S are a bit weird).

Also, I don't understand why so many people listen to Xeno and follow his words as gospel. He's decent at the game but not very smart, and a below average tank.

While I agree you shouldn't treat anyone's words as gospel (w/o other sources confirming), I'm curious why you say he's "not very smart" and a "below average tank". He's by no means the best WAR, there's a lot of aggressive habits Xeno has that lead him to really sketchy situations, but I'd say he's at least above average. You can go look at his 7man MT T13 for some really fine tuned GCD mapping, as well as his Titan EX solo video. But yeah, just curious why you say that.

[LeeraSorlan]

You can go look at his 7man MT T13 for some really fine tuned GCD mapping, as well as his Titan EX solo video. But yeah, just curious why you say that.

i would just like to say, that while xeno obviously didnt just faceplant his keyboard to solo that titan ex, the only reason he won was because of pure luck, there were MANY times where if his heals hadnt crit, he would have been dead.no doubt he practiced and tryed that over and over to get the clear he did get, but it wasnt from pure skill