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  1. #41
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    King Canadane
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyani View Post
    That's easy to explain: Healers can only carry through being a lot better. You can't really contribute to damage, and only WHM can contribute to kill pressure, so carrying winds up just being "Significantly outplay the enemy healer AND both enemy DPS".

    Not a lot of Bronze or Silver healers can do that, so they're stuck.
    This is where I find myself too. It's a battle of keeping players in my lime if sight (since so many of my comrades forget wood blocks magic) and helping them alive slightly longer than the opposing healer can. As scholar I can do a fair amount of self-preservation since my faerie continues to heal through attunement. But I can only go so far, and I'm at a cross to be living it's my skill level or just a fundamental problem with how the role works on the feast.

    I've never encountered this in any other PvP mode.
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  2. #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aviars View Post
    I think the rank 9 on primal atm might be a warrior, when they came up I looked and they were wearing warrior pvp gear.
    If you mean #9 as of today (5/11/2016) that guy is actually a monk. I've run into him a couple times and I've only ever seen him on monk. But who knows maybe he does play tank as a alt on occasion.
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  3. #43
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    Aviars Lightsworn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimitrii View Post
    If you mean #9 as of today (5/11/2016) that guy is actually a monk. I've run into him a couple times and I've only ever seen him on monk. But who knows maybe he does play tank as a alt on occasion.
    Ya, I wasn't exactly sure, I never played with or against the guy and they were always in warrior gear, pvp or pve.
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    that player i've only seen on melee.

    with that said there's at least 3 players in the top 20 who have played either a great deal of tank or the majority of it while getting to those ranks. while in general tanks don't have as much impact as mdps/rdps, they can still perform quite well.
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  5. #45
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    Kyani Jawantal
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    This is where I find myself too. ... I've never encountered this in any other PvP mode.
    As a fellow Scholar main:

    It's also that scholar is awful for the feast; it's just not designed for eight minute long engages against AST or especially WHM. You'd have to be an idiot or a savant to choose Scholar as your main feast class, because even post-changes the class is lacking in a lot of very basic ways.

    It's fun, tho.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyani View Post
    As a fellow Scholar main:

    It's also that scholar is awful for the feast; it's just not designed for eight minute long engages against AST or especially WHM. You'd have to be an idiot or a savant to choose Scholar as your main feast class, because even post-changes the class is lacking in a lot of very basic ways.
    This is what makes the fact that currently primal's highest ranked healer at #6 having played the majority of their game as SCH so shocking really.
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  7. #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyani View Post
    As a fellow Scholar main:

    It's also that scholar is awful for the feast; it's just not designed for eight minute long engages against AST or especially WHM. You'd have to be an idiot or a savant to choose Scholar as your main feast class, because even post-changes the class is lacking in a lot of very basic ways.

    It's fun, tho.
    Oh yeah it's tons of fun. I play a tank in pve so healer was always the one everyone wanted to kill in pvp. Been scholar my entire pvp life!

    But yeah I agree with you it's not designed at all for this mode. In 8v8 however (played this somewhat pre-season), I was top of the charts. Scholar, in my opinion (and sounds like yours too?) is best when it's the support healer, not the main healer. I do feel like I push the limits of the job at all times, whereas I can notice other healer jobs not doing what I would call the best performances, yet if my dps aren't the best I feel the pressure quite heavily.
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  8. #48
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    Waltheof Wenyasch
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    Quote Originally Posted by kisada View Post
    well if you ask me, healers deserve a different reward base than that of dps/tank jobs, either via titles or mounts/gear etc.
    Much like how SE tried to get people to go more WHM with the lvl 30 Unicorn mount quest?
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  9. #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by FunkYeahDragons View Post
    Your reward is running away laughing after living through a melee LB, while they scramble after you.
    YES! BEST FEELING EVER! INSTA BENE THAT HIT AND RUN LIKE HELL XD
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    It's also really fantastic when you manage to kill someone with Aetheric Burst and have that 1 kill in your score XD
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