Xeno believes paladin should NEVER be main tank

[Iromi]

stuff..

I am not sure if this is a serious post or troll >.>

Just a few questions...or uh..thoughts..

[*]The best WAR in this game, though he does not admit.

I did not realize you knew every single WAR in the game personally? Or did we forget that not everyone makes videos of stuff they do in a video game lol.

Pretty much changed the tanking meta. I think Boc Choy was behind it too during BCoB but Xeno was watched a lot youtube / twitch (Tanks’s using STR gear)

Into what? My group never watches and videos or listens to anyone but ourselves..and we clear stuff just fine...and we've been together since FFXI days.

Very respected within the tanking community

I know tons of tanks and not one mentions this fellow...

Pretty entertaining player to watch on Twitch.

People still do/watch twitch? Furthermore...I am sorry but, I do love FFXIV...it is fun to play, but extremely boring to watch.

All other Youtube guides became irrelevant as Xenos where the best.

Again..people still do this? How bad is someone that they need to rely on a video? I mean...okay...I get that they give helpful hints and that is cool...but relying on it to this much? Uhm...well this explains a lot then.

Xeno started getting a bigger following during FCoB, slightly lesser known during SCoB era.

Again...I know a tooooon of people who play this game and again, never heard of this person. Just looks like your regular gamer who enjoys their hobby, which is cool. You are acting like this person cured cancer...very neckbeardy and cringe worthy post. Really, I had to cover my face reading that from embarrassment. Well...okay then.

I would rather hear opinion some pro no-lifes from Japan. I bet they have outdone us all twice when it comes to maximizing anything in this game.

Damn hikikomori'es....

Hahaha...yeah same. But I guess people tend to forget not everyone sits home all day and makes guides upon guides and plasters themselves on the internet. Most people just don't care lol.

[Gameplayzero]

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so I'm confused. You actually question the use of vids? I mean for normal content yeah, but for raids? Especially when doing try outs or joining an already existing group? Not only that but studying different rotations and different methods to doing certain mechanics is no harm done. Watching vids doesn't make you a bad player IF that's what you are implying. You can completely ignore vids however if group is cool with that, but most won't.

and the forum has mentioned Xeno plenty of times. Not really a nobody just because you've never heard of him . Though my post is rather off topic.

Rather then argue about this in the manner you guys are arguing in... why not just ask Xeno himself?

basically what jpec said. Maybe a discussion as old as time, but I wanted to get opinions and hear everyone's thoughts on this. As well as have misinformed players like myself see the post as well. Learn more about the tanks.

[Iromi]

so I'm confused. You actually question the use of vids? I mean for normal content yeah, but for raids? Especially when doing try outs or joining an already existing group? Not only that but studying different rotations and different methods to doing certain mechanics is no harm done. Watching vids doesn't make you a bad player IF that's what you are implying. You can completely ignore vids however if group is cool with that, but most won't.

and the forum has mentioned Xeno plenty of times. Not really a nobody just because you've never heard of him . Though my post is rather off topic.

Well, to be quite frank, compared to the number of people that play the game and the number of people who actually that do the content that he posts about he is a nobody...

People recognize me all the time saying "OMG UR DAT COSPLAY GURL FROM FFXIAH I KNEW U I NFFXI 1111!" in DF from cross servers..still, I am a nobody..lol. It is no big deal...

Yup..I do not prefer videos. Often times my group does things very, very different then others, my raid leader prefers us not to watch videos so we can think for ourselves and outside the box, it works . Oddly enough though I have played with some JP who do things like my group does. Not trying to dis people for watching videos, if they do that is more then fine, I understand why they do.

But yeah, what I was referring to is the way that person umm.... KuraiKiserogeru, was talking was like VIDEOS ARE GOD MADE BY THIS PERSON WHO IS MUH GOD BEST EVAAAAR...kinda weird.

My group and I just have no use for them. We did almost all of coil 1 completely different..to the point where when we went in the DF people were acting like we were idiots for not doing it how "the videos do", looking at videos for ideas or to better oneself is fine, but you have to understand where I am coming from. I agree wtih you 100%. Again, if others do..that is fine, I 100% respect them. My raid leader invents strategies and rotations and helps everyone in my group to learn...so no need for videos for us

And, Jpec07 that is cool, yeah stuff like that is fine..its just the way that one person was going on was really creepy towards this Xeno person lol.

[Gameplayzero]

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ah I get you. well honestly to the general player base the only people that are big are probably just mr.happy and misteq. That's about it imo.

and honestly blind runs can be far more fun and more rewarding. Just glad your group is having fun doing what they are doing. Raid groups are supposed to find best methods that work for them instead of just copying world first players. Looks like you guys are doing that just fine haha.

[KrenianKandos]

My group and I just have no use for them. We did almost all of coil 1 completely different..to the point where when we went in the DF people were acting like we were idiots for not doing it how "the videos do", looking at videos for ideas or to better oneself is fine, but you have to understand where I am coming from. I agree wtih you 100%. Again, if others do..that is fine, I 100% respect them. My raid leader invents strategies and rotations and helps everyone in my group to learn...so no need for videos for us

Curious question for you: Does your leader at least research the attacks a boss does in order to do said strategies or do you go in blindly? Curious because it would be easier to plan if you actually knew at least of the attacks. But I could understand just going in and getting blasted and laughing about it because, simply put, you have no idea what to expect and part of the fun, like a puzzle, is to figure out how to deal with a mechanic.

[Iromi]

Curious question for you: Does your leader at least research the attacks a boss does in order to do said strategies or do you go in blindly? Curious because it would be easier to plan if you actually knew at least of the attacks. But I could understand just going in and getting blasted and laughing about it because, simply put, you have no idea what to expect and part of the fun, like a puzzle, is to figure out how to deal with a mechanic.

Sure We go in blindly and he adapts on the fly and explains the mechanics to us and what to do almost instantly. A lot of times he also suggests us things to try as a group to test the waters and it usually bodes well once we all can grasp it. Although yes the first few wipes are always a riot and shock..LOL that is the most fun part if you ask me! Takes him about 1 blind run to get it step by step and a few to figure out how to explain it to our group. Hehe and he does not use any guides or anything, this I know because I sit right next to him when we play ^^

ah I get you. well honestly to the general player base the only people that are big are probably just mr.happy and misteq. That's about it imo.

and honestly blind runs can be far more fun and more rewarding. Just glad your group is having fun doing what they are doing. Raid groups are supposed to find best methods that work for them instead of just copying world first players. Looks like you guys are doing that just fine haha.

OH yeah...blind runs are the best! Love it thanks and yeah..I see waht you are saying...when I checked out some FFXIV guides on youtube just now I saw those names pop up, all good!

and yes, raid groups are supposed to find best methods that work for them. Much more rewarding that way and I find things tend to go more smooth with our raid leader calling stuff out as it happens and what to do...instead of saying hey guys go watch this video lol

[KuraiKiserogeru]

Videos

Just on the “video topic making subject alone”.

Mr.Happy has been known to make long and complicated videos about the game fights, without all the right facts and rushing his videos for that YouTube cash grab. He gained his popularity because at the time he was the only one making videos.

MizzTeq's videos began to outshine his, however lately there has been bad video misinformation and mechanics explanation skipping, such as A3s and A7s. Which reddit gave feedback on as the A7s guide has incorrect information on some mechanics. A3s they were stuck on because they wouldn’t change their strategy, lost static members and ended up posting a very late video. 5 months later when the still together and not "static killed" groups where beating it.

Xeno takes time on creating videos and waits until he understands all the mechanics and experiences it to give a better flowing guide. So sure, bash away at someone who is having a positive contribution to the XIV community. People may use guides, people may not use guides. But there’s a difference when these guides are giving the right and wrong information for the people that wish to watch and learn.

[Gameplayzero]

Just on the “video topic making subject alone”.

Mr.Happy has been known to make long and complicated videos about the game fights, without all the right facts and rushing his videos for that YouTube cash grab. He gained his popularity because at the time he was the

to be fair his recent videos haven't been like this. They are around the same length as everyone else's and is far more detailed. I never liked misteq even when happy made super long guides because she always tried to summarize stuff quickly. Now I dislike her guides even further thanks to what you mentioned. I'd rather have long videos that go into every nuance than vids that miss information just in general.

again off topic I apologize, but just wanted to clear things up.