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    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cherub View Post
    300 potency and halved tp cost. No reason to ever aeolian edge combo anymore. Just spam that 300 potency skill for 60 tp lmfao
    They should just pull a lame and make Death Blossom do 150 Potency and just make it a Ring of Thorns without the need for HT. And I doubt any DRG worth their lance uses ring of thorns when Doom Spike is bettah.
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    Miasma Eschaton
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    They should just pull a lame and make Death Blossom do 150 Potency and just make it a Ring of Thorns without the need for HT. And I doubt any DRG worth their lance uses ring of thorns when Doom Spike is bettah.
    If they buff NIN aoe DPS then I could really just see that 50 potency buff on death blossom (50 potency isn't bad!), maybe a bit more potency on doton and katon as well. So that it all adds up a bit.
    Nothing too crazy, something reasonable to make them at least comparable to MNK/DRG.
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    Baal Mirtaq
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    They should just pull a lame and make Death Blossom do 150 Potency and just make it a Ring of Thorns without the need for HT. And I doubt any DRG worth their lance uses ring of thorns when Doom Spike is bettah.
    150 pot would be quite an insane buff and definitely better than DRG. IF DRGs could use an uncomboed RoT for 150 pot they would use it over Doomspike because its far cheaper (120TP for 150 pot vs 160 for 160).

    If you keep in mind the 5% bigger dps boost from poisons, the 15% higher attack speed plus the addional 30-45 potency ticks from Ninjutsu, you cant really buff deathblossom higher than 120 pot. Of course its not out of the question that they reduce the tp costs of DRG AOE.
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    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChaozK View Post
    150 pot would be quite an insane buff and definitely better than DRG. IF DRGs could use an uncomboed RoT for 150 pot they would use it over Doomspike because its far cheaper (120TP for 150 pot vs 160 for 160).

    If you keep in mind the 5% bigger dps boost from poisons, the 15% higher attack speed plus the addional 30-45 potency ticks from Ninjutsu, you cant really buff deathblossom higher than 120 pot. Of course its not out of the question that they reduce the tp costs of DRG AOE.
    Ninja AoE is ass though. If anything at least make Mug steal shit. Over the year I've played it's only happened twice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    Ninja AoE is ass though. If anything at least make Mug steal shit. Over the year I've played it's only happened twice.
    Its not nearly as bad as people claim it to be, unless you are saying DRG aoe is bad too (which its not). You cant just buff it by almost 50% and think that thats balanced.
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    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChaozK View Post
    Its not nearly as bad as people claim it to be, unless you are saying DRG aoe is bad too (which its not). You cant just buff it by almost 50% and think that thats balanced.
    As far as AoE is concerned Doom Spike will always be better then HT+RoT. Especially if you know the basics of aiming attacks. As far as Ninja is concerned unless it's a huge pull if you have 3 or less it's far better to double Katon over Katon > Crit City Doton > Death Blossom which 4 or more you should do.

    Not nearly is bad is still bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    As far as AoE is concerned Doom Spike will always be better then HT+RoT.
    It is because RoT needs to be comboed is where i am getting at. If it wouldnt need to be comboed everyone would go for RoT because its only 120 TP. So you cant really say that 150 pot deathblossom would be worse than DRG aoe because doomspike is better than RoT.
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    Leera Katz
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    They should just pull a lame and make Death Blossom do 150 Potency and just make it a Ring of Thorns without the need for HT. And I doubt any DRG worth their lance uses ring of thorns when Doom Spike is bettah.
    the only reasonable time to use ring of thorns is whenever you have to refresh heavy thrust.i cry when i see drgs just spamming RoT all over because they dont feel like liining up doom spikes
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