Drk materia help plz

[Violette]

I listen to the Lord and Saviour Dervy Yakimi when it comes to stat weights, since the man does nothing but crunch numbers for this game when he has time to sit around.

The only thing is, when Dervy put out his own weights in 3.15 for DRK he admitted that his data was not as good as his pld/war data, because he did not have as much experience with the class. That is why I am hesitant to put 100% faith in his work and also look the japanese weights (which I can't remember the location of that source so I'm not able to link it, which is why this post should also be taken with a grain of salt), which put crit a bit lower and SkS a bit higher.

[JackFross]

2k souleaters noncrit inside grit are easy achievable in a party with slashing debuff/food and decent equipment. Also if you feel drk is a weak noodle compared to a warrior then your just doing smth wrong

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I'm just having a hard time figuring out why'd you want 8k mp if you hit like a week noodle. What's the point?

This post is implying "If you stack enough Piety to reach 8k mp, you will be hitting like a wet noodle because you are sacrificing well over 50 Attack Power for gains you will never realistically see, due to the fact that Mana is not a resource so much as a mechanic which modulates in discrete chunks."


And at the above - that's pretty fair. I wish I could see the source, though, to compare.

[Ragnorak]

Until a DRK can hit a DASE in Grit and heal for 2k noncrit guaranteed meaning you marginally can restore about 10% of max HP(if you had say 22k) across 3 weaponskills I will remain uninterested

But they can if you went the "cookie cutter" way. And a decent DRK can hold his own against a WAR in dps. I mean its almost better you stack parry.

Can't believe I said that gonna throw up now.

You sorta remind me of my old co tank back in final coil (PLD) he had So many crafted sets with elemental materia only problem is he couldn't take a hit AT ALL. He was an odd one though always theory crafting and making elemental melded armor

[Violette]

...... Context. See explanation below:

This post is implying "If you stack enough Piety to reach 8k mp, you will be hitting like a wet noodle because you are sacrificing well over 50 Attack Power for gains you will never realistically see, due to the fact that Mana is not a resource so much as a mechanic which modulates in discrete chunks."


And at the above - that's pretty fair. I wish I could see the source, though, to compare.

I'll have another look for you when I get home tonight, because I feel bad presenting an argument without the evidence to back it up.



As for MP, a max meld will get you 198 piety, which is what......1000mp (if someone wants to confirm for me)..... so just half of a DA at the start....yeah never seeing the use for it. As jack said, it's a mechanic not a resource, so even this initial boost is not useful outside of 3 minute dps parses.

[MagiusNecros]

198 will probably get you an additional 851 MP and a full 211 would get you 907 MP if the PIE per point is indeed 4.3. To break 1000 you'd need 233 PIE to break 1k and just barely at that. And it's achievable if you use HQ Spiced Cider to get that 46 Piety. Also comes with 45 VIT which could be a nice boost. And I believe Cider is currently one of the few that gives the highest VIT boost so if you built VIT/STR it can be 45 points better then it already is. And most of the Mats are rather easy to get.

I'd actually experiment with elemental sets but I think most of the fights have nothing to do with elemental damage. Aren't they all unaspected and that's why there is very little reason to worry about Elemental Materia? As opposed to something like Titan?

[Violette]

I'd actually experiment with elemental sets but I think most of the fights have nothing to do with elemental damage. Aren't they all unaspected and that's why there is very little reason to worry about Elemental Materia? As opposed to something like Titan?

Boom case closed.

And yes, elemental materia was a thing in 1.0 and it rolls just like parry in arr, i.e. if you have it it gives a% chance to reduce a % of damage of a certain element.

But it starts at 0% chance to parry so it's worse than parry.

[Yuni_Queen]

Elemental damage? pff. i stopped looking at those when i realised that BLM with his fire dmg, do not deal any kind of fire dmg at all.

There is no elemental damage in this game, until you have wind down x 9 debuff. and it was meant to deal high dmg...
Only Physical and Magical damage.

[Jpec07]

I'd actually experiment with elemental sets but I think most of the fights have nothing to do with elemental damage. Aren't they all unaspected and that's why there is very little reason to worry about Elemental Materia? As opposed to something like Titan?

In my experience, the only thing elemental resistance materia is good for anymore is the phase of the ARR relic series where you need to meld a bajillion materia to a scroll or something like that.

[MagiusNecros]

In my experience, the only thing elemental resistance materia is good for anymore is the phase of the ARR relic series where you need to meld a bajillion materia to a scroll or something like that.

It's also good for Mutamix turn ins for something better or spiritbonding gear faster. Other then that it's garbage.

[Jpec07]

It's also good for Mutamix turn ins for something better or spiritbonding gear faster. Other then that it's garbage.

D'oh! I keep forgetting that I can do that! XD

While we're on the topic of Materia, a random question comes to mind; does anyone know if tanks' self heals benefit from MND? I'm not talking cross-class Cure, but things like Bloodbath, Abyssal Drain, Grit+Souleater, etc. Don't think it try it, but I'd be amused if tanks benefitted from it at all.