Drk materia help plz

[Sarcatica]

The issue with Piety is that even if you meld all spots with it, the mp you get MAY only just put you over 4 DA's before empty(race's may vary), though that's a loss of 75 STR and 80?idk roughly 80ish secondaries for a higher MP pool, which doesn't help because you regenerate at roughly the same rate, so the cap only helps those who forget to DA.

Regeneration is not the issue here. Compare to BLMs that have enough HP tend to go PIE or just full SpS only because more mana = more fires. DRK has several skills locked behind CDs like DP, CnS. So you are only comparing DASE for the most part and it's just a 120 potency up once a while. In that regards, compare having 75 STR more that impacts 95% of your damage. We still have no idea how PIE build for DRK does (especially since PIE build would have been way more awesome with the old i150s pentameld), so I will reserve my comment until someone actually has the excess money to test it out and give more data.

[JackFross]

Crit's around 0.15 and sks is 0.12 no? Because that's what the JP's put it at roughly, which would put SkS V > Crit IV.

I listen to the Lord and Saviour Dervy Yakimi when it comes to stat weights, since the man does nothing but crunch numbers for this game when he has time to sit around. He seems to spend evenings just poring over data to determine optimal this that and the other thing. He spent the 3.1-3.2 downtime theorycrafting a 3-minute dummy parse for DRG. His weights are:

AP - 1
STR - 0.45
VIT - 0.45
DET - 0.139
CRT - 0.166
SKS - 0.117

Applying the latter three to Materia IV and V:
STR 5 = 6.750
STR 4 = 3.150
CRT 5 = 1.992
DET 5 = 1.668
CRT 4 = 1.494
SKS 5 = 1.404
SKS 4 = 1.053
DET 4 = 0.834

So, no, I organized them properly.



And, with respect to the Piety discussion... No. At first it seems like a good idea, sure, but if we assume no crafted anything, we're looking at 13 slots for Piety (because if you drop 15 STR for 15 PIE, I will simply not listen to your argument because it's wrong) which is a grand net gain of 195 Piety. Through my own testing, Piety scales at +4.3 MP per point on Dark Knight (the scaling differs by Job). So we're looking at a grand total net gain of approximately 838.5 MP - not even half of one Dark Arts.

And you are sacrificing 156 potential secondary stats in those spaces. Assuming that's all Skill Speed V (which is a pretty bad option), you're still looking at a minimum of +18.252 Attack Power that you're sacrificing for less than one half of one Dark Arts added to your Mana pool. And this says nothing of the fact that you're handcuffing yourself in which pieces to equip because you're melding zero Accuracy Materia.

I personally think that's absolutely ludicrous, but to each their own.

PS. +18.252 Attack Power is approximately equivalent to 3 additional Strength V Materia melds.

PPS. If it were all DET V, it would be 21.684 - if it were all CRT V, it would be 25.896. You would need 10/13 Materia slots to be Crit to make up 3 additional Strength V melds in stat weight.

[KrenianKandos]

Personally, I just go with the norm: slot Strength in the right side in order to get more damage all around, and on the left it's Crit and fail that, Det. I don't even socket Vs in my left side because, honestly, I'll upgrade the gear, forget to remove the materia and curse. Also, that is also something: I do VA once a week, get one V per week, and that's it. So I'll slot everything with IVs, remove it when I can get Vs for it.

Piety build sounds...interesting. Not sure it's viable but it sounds interesting.

[Ragnorak]

Once upon a time we used to joke about piety tanks. Seems the joke has become reality.....

[Jpec07]

Once upon a time we used to joke about piety tanks. Seems the joke has become reality.....

Can I get a slice of that PIE?

*ducks*

[Ragnorak]

Can I get a slice of that PIE?

*ducks*

y u do dis lol

[MagiusNecros]

Piety build isn't going to be optimal but someone's gotta do it once right? I don't do the "hard" content so all that STR will just be wasted IMO.

That said with 16 slots and all 35 bonus points into Piety you are spending 211 points into Piety which bumps you up to 396. And you can bump that up a bit with food especially HQ Spiced Cider(but making that or even getting that will be hard) to give you another 46 points into Piety which will get you to 440 Piety.

Which should break 8k mp. SO it could be interesting but if min maxing DPS is your thing then Piety is not for you.

[Ragnorak]

I'm just having a hard time figuring out why'd you want 8k mp if you hit like a week noodle. What's the point?

[MagiusNecros]

I'm just having a hard time figuring out why'd you want 8k mp if you hit like a week noodle. What's the point?

Simply because I can. That's the beauty of having a Crafted set and later a full Lore set which will go the usual cookie cutter VIT/STR build. Even if all tanks will still hit like a "weak noodle" no matter what you do in comparison to say a fulltime Crit Warrior or DPS classes in general. Until a DRK can hit a DASE in Grit and heal for 2k noncrit guaranteed meaning you marginally can restore about 10% of max HP(if you had say 22k) across 3 weaponskills I will remain uninterested. If it is possible however now would be the time to tell me.

It's mostly just for fun though even if I'd love to see more use out of other stats then just 1 or 2 and secondaries doing more then just boosting stat 1 and stat 2.

[Shinzee]

2k souleaters noncrit inside grit are easy achievable in a party with slashing debuff/food and decent equipment. Also if you feel drk is a weak noodle compared to a warrior then your just doing smth wrong