30 Minute Lockout for Leaving Roulette's isn't Working as Intended.

[Reynhart]

What are you trying to say? He is entitled to leave if he wants to.

The fact that there is a penalty is a proof that one shouldn't do that.

And the fact that people so blatantly don't care about the penatly is why the penalty should be increased.

Increased to the point of either they stop leaving duties, or they just stop doing roulettes altogether. Yes, maybe it will increase queuing time, but at least, it will ensure that when the party go into the duty, everyone will stay.

[alimdia]

I'll support a 24 hour DF penalty for leaving if people doing lvl 50 tier dps in expert gets a 24 hour DF penalty as well in the same patch

[Zojha]

Exactly my point. Thank you MomomiMomi. It's these people who wish to take that away because they feel "entitled" to the run they are in, even if they have to hold the rest of us hostage to get what they want.

I don't think you can reasonably claim being held "hostage" in a situation you willingly signed yourself up for. Next you're telling us your electricity provider is a bandit because he demands you to fulfill your part of the contract and pay and wants to enforce that via law >_>

[Ragnorak]

Hilarious thread. But will never happen

[ShadowYomi]

Odds are the people who this will affect the most may not become the intended target. Also it would seem if that is implemented it would be better to run as a tank or healer with a pre-made instead of going solo.

[Reynhart]

The current penalty was set with the following circumstances in mind:

• Users abandoning a duty continuously while trying to get placed into a specific duty

This is easy. Lock the roulette so that you'll always end in the same duty for the day.
And if people can't "chose" their duty, we might not even need the 30 minutes penalty anymore.

[Sicno]

Another thing that can be done is have a special tab on the duty finder for "distress calls". There you could see a notification for what roles are needed for duties in-progress without letting you know what those duties are beforehand (to avoid abuse). They could offer a reward (on top of the normal rewards for the duty) that is not too big but that would still be nice to have (like ventures, for instance). I'm sure some people would be willing to help without the need for big rewards and they just need the means to know there's people abandoned to their luck. Don't reward something like tomestones so that people don't use these calls as a replacement for their roulettes and to avoid people exploiting them in some way.

You could also see notifications for these distress calls on your recommendations window if they match your current role.

[Hyrist]

I'll support a 24 hour DF penalty for leaving if people doing lvl 50 tier dps in expert gets a 24 hour DF penalty as well in the same patch

Severity of errors here. Experts are where players are supposed to be refining their skills, not where you expect their performance to be at par. If you can't tolerate a DPS doing poorly, don't queue.

A DPS doing poorly is failing a skillcheck. A Tank dumping a party is being rude. I'd rather help a poor player improve than give any forgiveness for someone being rude.

I mean, otherwise we can give healers the ability to give a month queue ban to Tanks for over-pulling beyond their healer's comfort/gear limits, right?

[XiXiQ]

There's also NO WAY to know a party in progress needs a replacement, without queuing for them.

This - I'd be quite happy to jump into duties in progress and fill the hole if I could see what was needed. I queue with in progress quite a bit, but usually only ever get into new duties, it's quite the crapshoot.

[ChakoTako]

Odds are the people who this will affect the most may not become the intended target.

I agree with this statement, as I have left dungeons a couple times in the past due to harassment. Maybe I should have just reported the people doing the harassment, but sometimes it's just easier to drop out. Having to wait a full 30 min to que again is harsh enough, especially as dps que times can take 30 min or longer in its self.