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    Yhisa's Avatar
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    Character
    Susubi Subi
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Pomelo View Post
    So its the current Spear with the old effects of Original HW Ewer/Spire tacked on. :/

    Spear isn't even a bad card if you know how to play other jobs, you know when in the rotation they use their CD's and you can use it with your own...
    I know how to use spear >.> but in mid fight spear get more tricky to use on prepull its a no brainer

    In mid fight u can completely ruin a job rotation that uses cooldowns which the disorientates the player and send there cooldowns all over the place which forces the player to adapt quickly mid fight as u screwed up there normal rotation
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    Izmeaih's Avatar
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    Character
    Summer Snow
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 70
    I would rather Ast keep the spear card, and for the spear to simply work retroactively. If it reduced abilities that were on cooldown (but didn't affect them if they were taken off cooldown by the ability), and also while under it's effect reduced cooldown of abilites that have yet to be granted a boon from the card. This way, the card would be universally useful no matter who it was thrown on, or when.
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    AnaviAnael's Avatar
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    Character
    Anavi Anael
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Izmeaih View Post
    I would rather Ast keep the spear card, and for the spear to simply work retroactively. If it reduced abilities that were on cooldown (but didn't affect them if they were taken off cooldown by the ability), and also while under it's effect reduced cooldown of abilites that have yet to be granted a boon from the card. This way, the card would be universally useful no matter who it was thrown on, or when.
    This would be fantastic! That's my biggest gripe with Spear. If you use it on a job that uses a lot of cooldowns, it may not be as effective since you don't know which cooldowns have been used or not used.
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    Character
    Raela Sarinelle
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Yhisa View Post
    I know how to use spear >.> but in mid fight spear get more tricky to use on prepull its a no brainer

    In mid fight u can completely ruin a job rotation that uses cooldowns which the disorientates the player and send there cooldowns all over the place which forces the player to adapt quickly mid fight as u screwed up there normal rotation
    If someone gets comfortable with their job, they can reason how to deal with CDs being available sooner.. And by that logic, how do you handle mechanics that interrupt your rotation???
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    Character
    Sirus Tamare
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 60
    as a ninja, all I got to say about combining det and ss is, yikes. my poor tp and mudra clipping
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