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    Yhisa's Avatar
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    Susubi Subi
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    Astrologian Lv 90

    Merge determination and spell/skill speed

    Sigh by now i would of thought det and speed would combine into 1 stat as speed does the same thing as det just that speed effects dots which is the only difference between the 2 stats

    So i would like to see these 2 stats merge as 1 and make these changes

    REMOVE SPEAR
    Removing spear from ast which yields 25% CDR instead turn spear into a stat on gear as using it as a buff turns rotations bad and sends cooldowns all over the place which confuses players

    Tactical Enhancement
    Reduce the cooldown of abilities and reduce Tp/mp cost of abilities

    Litterally this can work.... Instead of AST having to be a mind reader to use spear turning it into a stat would be soo useful but cap it at 25% CDR just like spear
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    Y'sira Kurai
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    i normally use Spear to try and get and expanded Royal Road. I rarely use it otherwise.
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    Pomelo Elmbrook
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    Odin
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Yhisa View Post
    Tactical Enhancement
    Reduce the cooldown of abilities and reduce Tp/mp cost of abilities

    Litterally this can work.... Instead of AST having to be a mind reader to use spear turning it into a stat would be soo useful but cap it at 25% CDR just like spear

    So its the current Spear with the old effects of Original HW Ewer/Spire tacked on. :/

    Spear isn't even a bad card if you know how to play other jobs, you know when in the rotation they use their CD's and you can use it with your own...
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Double post due to being on mobile

    But yeah this is my main problem when playing AST i normally go by "blood for blood" buff then throw spear or wait for "atherflow" to reach 1, or "Hot Shot" or on "Prepull". Other then this SPEAR is extreamly hard to use >.>

    So many times i had a mech complain or bard or smn/sch u litterally need to have a 6th sense to correctly use spear

    So i come up with a better idea and that was turn spear into a meanful stat on gear with the same cap as spear which ia 25% plus adding old ewer/spire to it so it be more attractive to most jobs ingame

    Healers/tanks/dps all benefit from this stat it will also allow players to pick there stat path like Crit/speed Or Tact/crit. Tact/speed i was going to split up crjt and critical damage to allow more options but i dont know will make new thread for ideas
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Pomelo View Post
    So its the current Spear with the old effects of Original HW Ewer/Spire tacked on. :/

    Spear isn't even a bad card if you know how to play other jobs, you know when in the rotation they use their CD's and you can use it with your own...
    I know how to use spear >.> but in mid fight spear get more tricky to use on prepull its a no brainer

    In mid fight u can completely ruin a job rotation that uses cooldowns which the disorientates the player and send there cooldowns all over the place which forces the player to adapt quickly mid fight as u screwed up there normal rotation
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    Summer Snow
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    I would rather Ast keep the spear card, and for the spear to simply work retroactively. If it reduced abilities that were on cooldown (but didn't affect them if they were taken off cooldown by the ability), and also while under it's effect reduced cooldown of abilites that have yet to be granted a boon from the card. This way, the card would be universally useful no matter who it was thrown on, or when.
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    Anavi Anael
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    Balmung
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Izmeaih View Post
    I would rather Ast keep the spear card, and for the spear to simply work retroactively. If it reduced abilities that were on cooldown (but didn't affect them if they were taken off cooldown by the ability), and also while under it's effect reduced cooldown of abilites that have yet to be granted a boon from the card. This way, the card would be universally useful no matter who it was thrown on, or when.
    This would be fantastic! That's my biggest gripe with Spear. If you use it on a job that uses a lot of cooldowns, it may not be as effective since you don't know which cooldowns have been used or not used.
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    Raela Sarinelle
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    Cactuar
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Yhisa View Post
    I know how to use spear >.> but in mid fight spear get more tricky to use on prepull its a no brainer

    In mid fight u can completely ruin a job rotation that uses cooldowns which the disorientates the player and send there cooldowns all over the place which forces the player to adapt quickly mid fight as u screwed up there normal rotation
    If someone gets comfortable with their job, they can reason how to deal with CDs being available sooner.. And by that logic, how do you handle mechanics that interrupt your rotation???
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    Sirus Tamare
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    Lamia
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    Ninja Lv 60
    as a ninja, all I got to say about combining det and ss is, yikes. my poor tp and mudra clipping
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    Shiki Lockhart
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    Ragnarok
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    Astrologian Lv 80
    Det and speed the same thing where? They are nothing at all the same... det increase the overall healing done and speed increase the speed of your casts. Where is that the same? O.o

    About a AST card, yes spear has very few choices, usually I royal road it to extend to use on me or a NIN if there is one.
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    Last edited by Shiki_Lockhart; 05-13-2016 at 08:53 PM.

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