The arrogance of some people

[Seraphix2407]

Last week I got my WHM to 60 and like around few days before that, I was in Aery. I kept dpsing and the tank NEVER died, even with lots of pulls, they NEVER used vengance on their warrior and I still kept them alive while dpsing (because holy is OP with stuns ). They never used maim or storms eye or path either, just butchers block combo, even on bigger packs they rarely did overpower. Well if they did do the storms combo's it wasn't often for sure but either way this happens when I die for the fift time because they refuse to tank properly.


Is this okay? I'm not saying all tanks are like this, but holy shit, I really hate just healing in a dungeon and just sit there and wait till something is going on, which rarely happens. Like right after I hit 60 and tried my fresh 60 whm in the lvl 60 roulette, I met 1 tank who rarely was in the tank stance after he got aggro, used cooldowns while I kept dpsing, keep in mind the dps's I had in that group was also amazing, thought it somehow was a premade but it wasn't. This run took 11 min to finish. Now, I'm not saying everyone should heal and dps if they don't want to, but if you gonna complaing healing is boring and it's the only class you can instant que with, you either stop que as a healer or start dpsing and then same time keep the tank alive. I personaly love dpsing and same time heal, not because it makes the run faster but I also improve as a healer which is my goal, to be better and also its fun being better no? I honestly don't see some people's logic.

Oh not this again. Ok, to settle this: Healers who don't DPS are fine, consider it a bonus if we do, dungeons aren't built with our deeps in mind, and if enrage timers are being hit, or enemies are taking forever to die, if your class icon is red, YOU ARE THE ONE SLACKING, NOT US.

I agree on this, however if everyone can optimized there will mostlikely be less mechanics going on, which means less cd usage from tanks and less heal which be less burden for the players. Again, I will say it, I don't expect people to dps as a healer.

[Archaell]

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It is not okay because you were being inconsiderate of the tank. :P As much as I dislike dpsing no-defensive/enmity abilities warriors, you should not get obsessed with pressing all the buttons when the tank has enmity issues. 5 times really? xD And you hadn't considered that maybe you could have lowered your enmity output by not dpsing?

I know that doing less than you can do may hurt your ego, but sometimes doing too much can be even worse than doing too little.

[Seraphix2407]

I know that doing less than you can do may hurt your ego, but sometimes doing too much can be even worse than doing too little.

I see your point, but as people have already mentioned, it wouldn't help much just sitting there and heal either, simply because they would still chase me, of course not much as me dpsing them and healing at the same time.

However when I level up a new character I wanna know and learn about the new spells and adjust myself to the higher level healing. Too be honest, I've seen sooo many people fail on healing on niddhog or last boss on vault boss. When I play, 95% of the time, I don't wanna do it half assed, I'm trying my best and if my best isn't good enough it's about time to adjust myself and re-learn the class or simply ask people who knows the class. But when you can't do 2-3 overpowers, is that simply too much to ask for? And yes really 5 times, I even used shroud at some pull that managed to save my ass, so I wouldn't die .

[Ashkendor]

I know a chick who was asked to use Virus during Thordan EX. She said, "you don't understand how hard it is to DPS as a healer." She's a sch btw. (I think I heard Kaurie and Ashkendor die a little inside.)

Hahaha. Honestly, it takes practice to DPS effectively even as a SCH.

You have to learn exactly how much your fairy can carry. ;3

Is this okay? I'm not saying all tanks are like this, but holy shit, I really hate just healing in a dungeon and just sit there and wait till something is going on, which rarely happens.

It's not okay. The tank wasn't doing his job, which probably would've kept you from doing even basic healing. Healing generates tons of aggro, and if the tank was failing to keep AoE hate on mob packs, you would've had stuff chasing you either way.

It is not okay because you were being inconsiderate of the tank. :P As much as I dislike dpsing no-defensive/enmity abilities warriors, you should not get obsessed with pressing all the buttons when the tank has enmity issues. 5 times really? xD And you hadn't considered that maybe you could have lowered your enmity output by not dpsing?

Healing generates far more enmity than DPS does. She probably would have had the same problem whether she DPS'ed or not. This isn't a matter of being considerate or inconsiderate to the tank. If the tank isn't holding enmity, they flat-out aren't doing their job and either their gear needs to be updated or their play needs some major adjustment. Since this was in Aery, she was synced down to a gear level appropriate for the dungeon and unless they were undergeared for the content, there's no way that a warrior of all things should have had any problems whatsoever keeping hate off of her.

[AnaviAnael]

Hahaha. Honestly, it takes practice to DPS effectively even as a SCH.

You have to learn exactly how much your fairy can carry. ;3

Definitely agree it takes practice to DPS on sch (or any healer for that matter), but this person has played SCH exclusively since the beginning of 2.0.