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  1. #21
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    Zojha's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whocareswhatmynameis View Post
    I love how everyone's response to how lolsy modern MMOS have become is "go in with white gear"... What a joke "Oh 95% of the game is too easy? Have you tried gimping yourself, sir?"
    I see no issue with that?

    I mean, you might as well play every game only in "Very Easy" because picking a harder difficulty is just gimping yourself.

    MMOs unfortunately lack the luxury of a difficulty slider or setting. And just looking through some of the achievement data of my steam games, difficulties above "normal" typically have less than 10% the scores Very Easy -> Normal have. I frankly expect all but a tiny minority of content to be easy for a more seasoned gamer considering these circumstances.
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  2. #22
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    Indira Light
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    Quote Originally Posted by Korbash View Post
    I vote no. And what about the sick and disabled players who play the game and pay their sub? You might find those dungeons "easy", but when you're sick and disabled those dungeons are anythng but easy, they're super hard.
    Can you please stop using this when you don't agree with threads? If you personally don't find things easy because of this then that's fine, but stop generalising sick and disabled people into finding the game hard. Just because people are sick doesn't mean they automatically don't enjoy challenging aspects of the game.
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  3. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by WinterLuna View Post
    Can you please stop using this when you don't agree with threads? If you personally don't find things easy because of this then that's fine, but stop generalising sick and disabled people into finding the game hard. Just because people are sick doesn't mean they automatically don't enjoy challenging aspects of the game.
    this ^

    using disabled ppl as weapon ...makes this ppl no favor,...if SE or any dev had to create games based on disabled ppl (and im sure FFXIV is a example of game that thinks on disable, even deaf players ) then no game will be ever be challenging...i cant talk for them , but im sure they can enjoy some "super hard" challenges too, hell some ppl like to be challenged to the extreme and there are games that cater to them , Dark souls series is a example of that...
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  4. #24
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    I like easy dungeons. They make me feel as if I know what I'm doing and distract me from the yawning abyss where my soul should be.
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  5. #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by WinterLuna View Post
    Can you please stop using this when you don't agree with threads? If you personally don't find things easy because of this then that's fine, but stop generalising sick and disabled people into finding the game hard. Just because people are sick doesn't mean they automatically don't enjoy challenging aspects of the game.
    If I wanted to play something challenging, I'd play games like Dark Soul, or a hardcore MMO, there are a few out there, but I play MMOs to have fun, FF XIV is targeted for casual players, do quests, explore areas. I've been playing games since 5-6 with the Atari console, then Nintendo, now I play MMOs.

    And I'm talking about physical limitations, and my condition is getting worse, and the constant pain that prevent me from doing the hard contents of Heavensward, I'm not being lazy, it's very very difficult to do it for me. Why should I let the few hardcore players ruin the MMO that I'm playing?
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    Last edited by Korbash; 04-29-2016 at 02:28 AM.

  6. #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlyx View Post
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    Yeah, it just annoys me. Being sick or disabled doesn't determine how someone wants to play a game. I raided FcoB with a drip attached to me. Sorry to derail from the thread, I just thought something needed to be said as he's used this excuse twice now on two separate threads.
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  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by Korbash View Post
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    I'm sorry but nobody is ruining anything for you because the majority of suggestions you've been posting this excuse on have been completely optional and you wouldn't even have to touch them. Does Savage ruin the game for you? No. So I still stand with what I'm saying, being sick or disabled has absolutely nothing to do with any of this and you shouldn't be using it as an argument.
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  8. #28
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    Fina Sela'dor
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    Ninja Lv 70
    If you want a challenge, get 4 friends and try to play a dungeon without the HUD.
    Memorize your keybindings and try to beat the dungeon without seeing anyone's health or incoming attacks.

    You can still use attacks / skills / spells without the HUD, and I'm sure you can still use keys to cycle through targets. I don't remember if the Mouse works or not.

    You can even try "Undersized party" and entering a dungeon way below your level just to see how it is. Work your way up to harder and harder ones.

    It might sound stupid, but it would be hard and challenging.

    EDIT: Another idea. Make a 2nd character and impose perma death on yourself. Run with only people you really trust. (DF is a bad idea.)
    If you die, delete the character. See how far you can get.

    I did this in FFXI for a while and it really made me play the game a lot differently. I think I got to level 47 when I died.
    I did delete that character, and gave all my money to friends.
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    Last edited by FinaSel; 04-29-2016 at 02:44 AM.

  9. #29
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    Areku Foxfire
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    Hyperion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Korbash View Post
    If I wanted to play something challenging, I'd play games like Dark Soul, or a hardcore MMO, there are a few out there, but I play MMOs to have fun, FF XIV is targeted for casual players, do quests, explore areas. I've been playing games since 5-6 with the Atari console, then Nintendo, now I play MMOs.

    And I'm talking about physical limitations, and my condition is getting worse, and the constant pain that prevent me from doing the hard contents of Heavensward, I'm not being lazy, it's very very difficult to do it for me. Why should I let the few hardcore players ruin the MMO that I'm playing?
    Incorrect. It's a theme park, it has casual content AND it has hardcore content.

    If you don't want to do the hard content, then don't.

    Using the 'disabled people' argument is kinda pathetic. As sad as their situation is, Devs aren't going to cater to the 1% of the population that is disabled, and they shouldn't. Just stop.
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  10. #30
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    C'alih Tia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belhi View Post
    Really? I knew you couldn't go unsynced but I didn't know you couldn't use the ilvl sync. That's a bummer. I still think it would probably be one of the best ways to add a more difficult alternative since the system is already there. Just slap a bonus for using it to do content and people will be interested in it.
    Actually, you're right ^^ As long as you're a complete party for the dungeon (i.e. 4 people), you can go into the HW dungeons with minimum IL sync. Tried it right now. (Well, I didn't go in, but I clicked in the option, and the HW dungeons were still available.) Didn't realize that ^^ Then again, I've never looked before when there were exactly 4 people in the party, so... ^^;
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