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    Makado's Avatar
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    Makado Kitase
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    Excalibur
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    Gladiator Lv 60

    Feast, all luck.

    So I have been doing a lot of feast. Here is a summary of what has happened to me constantly the entire time.

    As tank - WAR, typical match includes being matched with 2 DPS who I do as much or more damage then, keep other teams heals stun + holmgang and DPS cannot kill anyone, or healer who is horrible. PLD, stun lock healer, other players, DPS cannot kill anyone during time heals are stunned, or healer who is horrible. I don't play DRK because LOLDRK.

    As heals - DPS and tank cannot kill anyone.

    As DPS - Typical match includes me doing markedly higher DPS then everyone else, while either having a tank and DPS who are horrible or the usual - ranked healer that is horrible

    So basically, no matter how good you are, it is purely luck. Luck like, how I am somehow always AGAINST the top ranked players, but not ever on their teams. Luck like how my healer is almost ALWAYS a - rank or bronze. Luck like how it likes to match me with 3 - teammates. I really wish SE would try and make this based on skill, because as it is now your level of play makes no difference to anything. I was top 10, played for a day, and dropped SEVENTY FIVE spots on the charts. It really is absolutely ridiculous that they somehow think this is fair. Either show us you are doing something about it, or I will not be resubbing next time mine is up.
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    Player
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    Makado Kitase
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    I agree. They either A - Didn't think it through, they needed to put some sort of wall in before joining ranked (so many wins in 8v8, completing a PvP tutorial or some sort) or B - Just wanted to watch the world burn, or in their case just keep people on the game playing longer like you said. I think they had a really good opportunity here with Feast, but they need to make things better or people are going to stop playing it just out of frustration.
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    Kisada Exis
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    Leatherworker Lv 50
    OP, where do you think you should actually be ranked? And can I ask what rating you think you deserve?
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    Last Starfighter
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chilla View Post
    Seeing how PVP in this game is designed to be so team-oriented (to the point where 1 person can't really carry their team), this will forever be an issue with solo queue.
    Ever wonder why no other team-based MMO has a solo rank system like this in place?
    World of Warcraft has this system down pretty good. Their solo queue arenas are solely for the purpose of helping noobs practice and to help undergeared pvpers get basic pvp gear. Then their arranged team arenas is where the real competition with real rewards is at. Why SE decided to do the exact opposite has me baffled.
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    Arant Aleite
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    Quote Originally Posted by kpxmanifesto View Post
    World of Warcraft has this system down pretty good. Their solo queue arenas are solely for the purpose of helping noobs practice and to help undergeared pvpers get basic pvp gear. Then their arranged team arenas is where the real competition with real rewards is at. Why SE decided to do the exact opposite has me baffled.
    Probably because PvE sucked most good players onto one or two servers. So if you're on some boondocks server, your only option is to transfer to the big server on your DC (ie: Gilga/Balm on Aether) so that you have the biggest pool of good players.
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    Player
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    Quote Originally Posted by kisada View Post
    OP, where do you think you should actually be ranked? And can I ask what rating you think you deserve?
    Absolutely top 10.

    Also, since I switched to DPS for some reason now every match I have tanks who are yelling about killing the healer (always an AST to lol) who continue to waste their time running after them the entire match yelling about how no ones on the healer (because chasing one player while the other three rape your team is a good idea). Sigh I just don't get it, what is wrong with people in this game.
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    Xizzy Azenith
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    Zalera
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    Monk Lv 80
    Maybe some community member who knows all the ins and outs can have some kind of guide on PVP for people to go to. So the overall skill level increase. I tried to look up guides for my job for my first time PvPing like 2 months ago and there are no substantial good guides

    If I knew enough about how PVP works inside and out I'd do it. But I can only play monk, and I still don't know any kind of body language or team move useage I'm suppose to coordinate with.
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    Player
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    Well the thing is you kind of need to make your own style, so the best thing to do is go through your moves, especially your PvP ones, and figure out a really nice combo that works for you. Basically, you want to tie everything together just like you do with PvE rotation, but tailor it to your PvP moves, and just learn when to burst down a target and when to hold back. That is why new players need to be in 8v8, doing this and learning their timings and such.
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    Agree with OP. Log in to Feast and drop 100+ ish i n under 30min. Literally every match I was paired with new players. You have 30s to explain how things work because they refuse to practice in 8v8 first.
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    Celes Reinhardt
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    Excalibur
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Makado View Post
    Also, since I switched to DPS for some reason now every match I have tanks who are yelling about killing the healer (always an AST to lol) who continue to waste their time running after them the entire match yelling about how no ones on the healer (because chasing one player while the other three rape your team is a good idea). Sigh I just don't get it, what is wrong with people in this game.
    To be fair, I have focused AST especially at times because they're always a pain in the ass to deal with. They're the only healer that can't pop a heal in between stuns, which is pretty annoying. I can't tell you how many times I've stunlocked an AST to see them heal themselves in between each stun because they have an instant heal, lol. It's just dumb as hell to deal with.

    Yet when I face SCH or WHM, they don't get away with that. They get stunlocked just as they should and are unable to heal during this time. In any case, there are only two scenarios which cause me to focus the healer:

    A. Our opening burst didn't kill the DPS, so now we're just wasting time on them.

    9 times out of 10, if you don't drop the DPS in the first 30 seconds or so, you're not going to. This is when I'll switch to their healer and focus them instead, then burn them down to focus the DPS we couldn't kill earlier.

    B. At some point during the match, an enemy DPS may have 2 stacks of medals or so, so people will try to focus them.

    This in itself isn't a bad idea, but if I see that a minute or two has passed and both DPS are still trying to kill the DPS with the 2 stacks, I switch the target to the healer, then we burn them down instead. Basically, it's a situational tactic because there will be times where the DPS on your team is so bad, they can't burst this guy for more than the enemy healer can heal for, so they keep recovering. This is when you basically have to focus the healer before you can make any headway, but if you're unable to kill the healer as well... Your team probably just lost the match.

    Point is, I can do everything to help you guys in order to kill the DPS or healer with Full Swing/stunlocking, but if you're still unable to kill them during that time, then I don't know what to tell you, man. You dun goofed.
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