change jobs mid dungeon/raid/etc

[Laerune]

I like it, but the system can be easily abused. Here is two examples that I have witnessed in another mmorpg.

1. Three players from the same guild join a dungeon as 1 healer and 2 dps, the tank is a random player. They reach the final boss and just before they engage the final boss, the tank got kicked. Why did the tank get kicked? The tank got kicked, because one of the dps player wanted to make 100% sure that he would get the tank weapon/armour if it were to drop. So the dps player changes into a tank, they get another random dps, they kill the boss and a tank item drops. You are probably asking yourself: "Why didnt the dps tank from the start?" Because like alot of players in this game, they have tank alts, but they do not want to tank to earn the gear.

2. Instant queue, every dps or healer would queue as tank, join the dungeon and change their class into a dps or healer.

I think the only way this would work is, if players join the DF as a full group (like via a Party Finder), otherwise this feature will be abused and the forums will be filled with QQ of players complaining about how someone kicked them get (insert item) or made them wait, because they queued as tank and played as another role.

This does not mean, I dislike this suggestion, I like it. But the ways players can abuse this system can damage the community and the game itself.

[Airget]

A system like this is just to unnecessary given the dynamic of Duty Finder. The amount of players who enter DF who actually say to themselves, "I'm geared enough where I"m ok with switching if needed" is pretty low. It's easy enough to find people on this topic who say they will do that however you are the minority.

First of all DF, you enter it on the job that is best geared, so instances like Alexander Midas, wouldn't exactly work to well because the odds of having someone in the group who has an IL comparable to their best is pretty low. Keep that variable in mind, not only are you hoping for a person out of the 7 or less left to want to change, but to also have gear that will make them competent enough to stay alive or deal enough damage. It's just not worth the effort to implement when you take into account that only a handful of people would ever truly make use out of it.

[LineageRazor]

First of all DF, you enter it on the job that is best geared, so instances like Alexander Midas, wouldn't exactly work to well because the odds of having someone in the group who has an IL comparable to their best is pretty low. Keep that variable in mind, not only are you hoping for a person out of the 7 or less left to want to change, but to also have gear that will make them competent enough to stay alive or deal enough damage. It's just not worth the effort to implement when you take into account that only a handful of people would ever truly make use out of it.

I'm pretty sure that the main concern here isn't stuff like Alexander Midas, which is currently such a hot item that even tanks and healers are replaced nigh-instantly.

This feature would be predominantly for stuff like dungeons, where a DPS often has to wait 15-30 minutes just to get in - and if a tank d/c's, the remaining group might have to wait another 15-30 minuntes for a replacement.

In such cases, I think that allowing party members to swap to needed roles (e.g., if a tank slot is the only one empty, the only allowable job change would be to tank) is a fine idea; even if the queue then resets, if the slot that has now opened up is a DPS slot, it will generally fill pretty quickly.

Needless to say, top quality gear would not be necessary in such cases. :P