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Thread: emnity issue

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    Oh one question I'm not sure if people here have asked you yet.

    You were gone for 5 months
    Are you still using STR accessories? Even if it wouldnt be making much of a difference for you at this current moment it would be good for you to know the STR accessory meta is over
    If this was already mentioned i apologize
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    Great thing to mention, Zari, so thanks for bringing it up! Vit and Str both affect AP equally, at .45 AP per point of each. It's almost universally better to use Vit accessories, because they'll usually give you more AP than their Str counterparts (there are some exceptions).

    Quote Originally Posted by Sarcatica View Post
    People use Dervy's stat weights but they don't know how secondary stats generally work with all the job's kit? Very alarming. It's just like healers stacking CRIT/DET instead of Accuracy because they want to save mana?? Logical? How are you saving mana if you keep missing dots application? Or like "OH, I can get 1.1K SkS with my Dragoon, I CAN DO MORE DPS". Often it's not the case at all.
    I find it kind of ironic that I've inspired this rant, considering how I'm the tanking forums' resident crazy Parry advocate. Even though I know the DPS weights, I don't really subscribe to the notion that tanks should sacrifice any mitigation (even tiny amounts) for marginal DPS gains. I'm also backwards and like to stack SkS on my Paladin, but it's largely because I like hitting buttons more frequently.

    Also, as you aluded to in your last post, Fracture is a pure DPS loss for PLD once they get Goring Blade. It only out-potency's the Rage of Halone combo at that point, so GCDs are better spent on the Goring Blade or Royal Authority, even if it's only starting the combo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarcatica View Post
    The only reason Why DET>CRIT>SkS is such for PLD is mainly because the job revolves around having 9GCD; GB>RA/RoH>RA/RoH combo. You can slot in Fracture in between if you have high SkS (10GCD) but it's really pointless since the skill itself is very weak vs RA/GB increased potency. On top of that SkS doesn't do anything for your Sword Oath, making it worse to stack vs DET/CRIT that can impact the overall damage from all sources. Without any boost for SkS, you are still able to get the 9GCD setup to work no matter what, unless if you are lagging or something.
    I was under the impression that crit > det for PLDs after the HW changes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian_ View Post
    I was under the impression that crit > det for PLDs after the HW changes.
    Oh man, mistake there. CRIT>DET is always the case for most classes. Good catch.
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    Well I think the problem stems purely from playing on a ps3 currently and dealing with a so-so connection. Having equivalent gear to another pld buddy who clears the a5s dummy with 30 seconds remaining I fail at 3%. He has zero enmity issues and can stance dance.

    Which is just a complete bummer. I can't even tank current content without being carried due to latency....
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    Spam rage of halone LoL simply, easy
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    with paladins it's a little more complicated. If you're not under-geared you can tank entire encounters easy without the RoH combo, simply because savage blade. at that point you're sacrificing the STR down debuff. Do you value your job as a tank to reduce incoming damage as much as you can with your kit, or do more damage by skipping the RoH combo? on a magic boss it's a no brainer obviously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirch View Post
    Spam rage of halone LoL simply, easy
    It is more complicated!
    Quote Originally Posted by ashwich View Post
    with paladins it's a little more complicated.
    As Ashwitch said!

    First you spam flash, THEN spam riot!!! It is much way complicated! >:C You need to use 2 additional skills. not just basic combo! >:C

    No matter if you are undergeared. It's a dungeon, not savage content.
    UNTIL you pull everything up to first boss or you run a dun in your holiday's swimsuit, RoH STR debuff shoudn't even matter.
    You have defensive cooldowns for use anytime you need 'em, and all these speedruns can be done with just those cooldowns,

    ...

    BUT if you are undergeared, why do you make such pull?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuni_Queen View Post
    It is more complicated!

    As Ashwitch said!

    First you spam flash, THEN spam riot!!! It is much way complicated! >:C You need to use 2 additional skills. not just basic combo! >:C

    No matter if you are undergeared. It's a dungeon, not savage content.
    UNTIL you pull everything up to first boss or you run a dun in your holiday's swimsuit, RoH STR debuff shoudn't even matter.
    You have defensive cooldowns for use anytime you need 'em, and all these speedruns can be done with just those cooldowns,

    ...

    BUT if you are undergeared, why do you make such pull?
    OH My bad, we're not talking about content that matters... like Savage... okay yes the cooldowns are enough, pull the entire dungeon and HG.
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    spam Rage of Halone ihihihihihihihi

    what would you do is what 99% of the peeps will tell you:
    -shield oath on all tie
    -switch target when RoH combo is ready
    -shield lob + flash + circle of scorn +blablabla

    I say find your own way to tank, use yer head pal
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