Statue of the Unsung

[Nalien]

Crappy MSPaint edit ahead;

I flipped 6 to give a better angle. First thing I notice? His horns go froward over his face then curve back, both the minion (which is still a minion of the Primal) and the Primals only go back, while still curving further back slightly. If you strip away all the gold Allagan augmentations off the Primal, the horns on the minion seem like an exaggeration of the Primals horns, I mean the minion is of Primal Bahamut, and that neck is clearly wrong.

Next lets look at 4s wings. They take up a fair portion of the artwork, and I'd say they're pretty damn similar to Bahamuts, right down to an almost claw like appendage at the tip. Yes 4s wings look a bit... feathery... You know what though? Bahamuts wings are covered in gold, and I'm incline to think all the gold on Bahamut is an Allag augmentation. Can't see 6s wings, but again, 4s are clearly on display here... I think in all cases, the first we see of Bahamut are his wings? When he pops out of Dalamud, it's his wings we see first, when we meet him again in Coil? Right off the bat, t1 shows us his wings.

Next up, the claw. Both 4 and 6 appear to have 3 claws, which is matching with what Bahamut has, 4s is kinda hard to make out, but I'd say that is much closer in alignment to what we fight on in t5 than what 6 has, where all the claws are next to each other almost like a paw. Make a fist with your left hand, then only extend your thumb, middle finger, and little finger; That's what Bahamut has. Make a fist with your right hand, then only extend your index finger, middle finger and ring finger; That's what 6 appears to have.

Also potentially worth noting is the spines along his back, 4s match up with the Primal Bahamuts more closely IMO.

IMO, 4 is definitely closest to Bahamut. We can't even see that much of 6, just his head and a foot... Of course the Primal isn't a perfect representation of Bahamut, and the minion isn't a perfect representation of the Primal Bahamut, but the hand and the wings sell it for me, plus 6 has a beak and his horns are arguably wrong.

[Lunaxia]

4 is Bahamut and 7 is Ratatoskr.

There is no question

Look screenshoots of Bahamut and remove all the allagan stuff ( gold )
They are really similar. Bahamut doesnt have 3 horns, it has 2. The 3th one is an allagan augumentation or neurolink.
On the 8 dragon picture, the number 4 looks more like a wyrm, it has spikes also if you look closely

On Number 7 is has 4 horns and go same direction as the ones of Nidhoog, it matches the old Ishgardian picture.

...there are many questions. 4 is nothing like Bahamut.

Look at the horns on the minion - exactly the same as 6, they curve in the same direction and point back up in the same way. It also has a similarly curved, beak-like mouth (though not quite as pronounced), and it has the same reddish colouring seen in the art in the OP. And if you look at the concept art/ in game footage of Primal Bahamut:

Though there are obvious differences in the shape of the body and horn placement - which, considering he's a primal reincarnation, it's natural to assume there will be some deviation from the original - look at the shape of the face and the horns on the side of his head. They jut forward then curve backwards into a point, just like 6's. Again, the mouth is similar as well.

I didn't see the bottom set of horns on 7 before - in that case it does suit the in-game depiction of Ratatoskr better than 4.

[Hinoto-no-Ryuji]

I seriously don't get how you guys are getting the same horn shape from that minion and 6. They are RADICALLY different. Much moreso than the minion and 4 (though those aren't identical either).

And colouring can't be relied on, or 3 isn't Tiamat.

[Whiteroom]

I was thinking number 6 was more griffon inspired. I agree that it is more likely number 4. But I think some are putting too much stock in them being exact copies of in game design, rather than an artists take on it.

[Lunaxia]

I seriously don't get how you guys are getting the same horn shape from that minion and 6. They are RADICALLY different. Much moreso than the minion and 4 (though those aren't identical either).

And colouring can't be relied on, or 3 isn't Tiamat.

??? Where are you even looking?



The horn shape is exactly the same, the only difference is the placement on primal Bahamut. They're at the side of his head rather than on top. Even the mouths are the same.

The minion and 4 are nothing alike.



And Tiamat is green, it's just the lighting (?) of the prison she's in that makes her look different. Look at her wings and neck:

[PArcher]

And colouring can't be relied on, or 3 isn't Tiamat.

And Tiamat is green, it's just the lighting (?) of the prison she's in that makes her look different.

She is green in Azys Lla too; you just have to get really close to her and get to an angle to cancel the purple lighting in the area.

[Nalien]

The horn shape is exactly the same, the only difference is the placement on primal Bahamut. They're at the side of his head rather than on top. Even the mouths are the same.

Let me just scribble on this;


The horn shape is different, and Bahamut doesn't have a beak. Meanwhile 4s wings match up to Bahamuts very nicely. Look at the top of 4s wings, and the top of Bahamuts wings, that claw like part is very similar on both.

The biggest issue with 4 is the angle... We're looking at his head from above, as such it's kind of hard to actually judge the horns adequately. We can tell that they're going back along the side of his head though, unlike 6, who has them curving over his face, which isn't at all how Bahamuts horns are depicted thus far.

[Whiteroom]

??? Where are you even looking?



The horn shape is exactly the same, the only difference is the placement on primal Bahamut. They're at the side of his head rather than on top. Even the mouths are the same.

The minion and 4 are nothing alike.



And Tiamat is green, it's just the lighting (?) of the prison she's in that makes her look different. Look at her wings and neck:

What you circled isn't a horn, that's a bit of Allagan tech for controlling him.

Horn shape is far from exactly alike. And Bahamut has no beak or feathers.





All this being said though, even Tiamat mentions that the primal was her Bahamut, so we could be looking at something different. The poster is supposed to be the "real" dragons, and we have only seen Bahamut as a primal. However I think 6 and the primal are night and day differences.



Minions don't look like exact replicas most times anyway. Behometh ones look lime pigs after all.

[Nalien]

What you circled isn't a horn, that's a bit of Allagan tech for controlling him.

He has horns under the Allagan augmentations. (in my mind Bahamut is voiced by Elias Toufexis and he never asked for this)

Scribbling on this again;

4 matches Bahamuts wings, his hand, and possibly his horns, since 4s horns are going back along his head and then curving, the angle isn't great to tell exactly how, though.
6 doesn't match on horns, since Bahamuts don't curve over his face at all, and the hand seems wrong to me. Can't see his wings at all, so who knows.

[Whiteroom]

He has horns under the Allagan augmentations. (in my mind Bahamut is voiced by Elias Toufexis and he never asked for this)

Are we sure of this? and does the tech follow the exact shape of the horn, or is it a sheath with its own shape?