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    Just a Paladin Idea for a Saturday Afternoon

    Maybe for 4.0, whenever.

    One thing I've heard is a pretty big problem for a lot of jobs (melee in particular) is the fact that it's very easy for them to lose their stacks if there's ever an instance where they're unable to keep hitting the boss (or something). Monks lose Greased Lightning, Dragoons lose Blood of the Dragon, and I'm sure there are and will be others.

    What if Paladins had an ability they could use that would let their allies bash against their shield? Make it so the Paladin can be targeted for offensive abilities by allies for a set period of time, so that they can keep their buffs up and not have to lose out on the DPS they provide.

    Just an idle musing on a Saturday afternoon. Might provide PLD with some unique raid utility, and give them the ability to help the group's damage out a bit for fights where the boss becomes untargetable.
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    Xyasreau Borlaaq
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    Lol.

    That would look so silly and only makes sense in game logic. Not saying it's a bad idea but damn... It'd be funny if it also does damage to the PLD leading to some hillarious deaths from Crits/overzealous DPS keeping their parses up.

    Taking 'punching bag' to a whole new level here.
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    Lol.

    Good one as a PLD myself I approve as long as the hit is not crits....... I don't wanna die by my own comrade's hands xD

    As a side notes that would makes PLD the true punching bag.
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    Haahahah...

    We'd see WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too many PLDs now due to the defenses.

    Or that WAR who...
    - ...has Vengeance up. He will hit you back when you hit him.
    - ...has Raw Intuition up and you gave him a buffed Heavy Thrust as a DRG from the rear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jpec07 View Post
    What if Paladins had an ability they could use that would let their allies bash against their shield?
    xD This is best crazy iea i saw here for a while!

    But technically too hard to implement. Do you remember those moments, when NPC you talk to changes after second to foe you need to kill? (Those story quests in example, first you talk to them, then you fight with them)
    The NPC is vanishing and enemy is appearing on NPC place- however 2nd one is a different Flag Actor (or simply different Actor).
    In other words changing party member hostile would have to probably reload the screen or maybe even relog for the paladin, so 'pvp' mode could take effect. You need to remove the flag from player, and place another. Of course Flags work differently in other MMO, but it looks like FFXIV cannot make smooth flag changes.

    However utility allowing paladin to freeze current status effects for 15 sec (usable only outside of battle) would be actually the solution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim_Berry View Post
    Haahahah...

    We'd see WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too many PLDs now due to the defenses.

    Or that WAR who...
    - ...has Vengeance up. He will hit you back when you hit him.
    - ...has Raw Intuition up and you gave him a buffed Heavy Thrust as a DRG from the rear.
    this made me laugh harder than i should have HAHAHHAHA
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuni_Queen View Post
    However utility allowing paladin to freeze current status effects for 15 sec (usable only outside of battle) would be actually the solution.
    Or perhaps something where you slam your shield into the ground to create a target dummy? Spawn an add with HP equal to the Paladin's that can't be damaged by the boss.
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    Player Yuni_Queen's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jpec07 View Post
    Or perhaps something where you slam your shield into the ground to create a target dummy?
    xD i am crying xD

    No matter if you are serious or not, this is best thread i could read here so far x'D

    This Striking Dummy is actually not a bad idea, it could be used as a lvl 70 core ability to let boss target dummy instead of you for HP remaining.
    Thou since Living Dead is still kind of problematic, i woudn't mind this ability for DRK.

    Actually only WAR doesn't seem to fit for that wonderful technique.

    Is there some official feedback thread we can present our Paladins' Striking Dummy Powershield idea?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuni_Queen View Post
    xD i am crying xD

    No matter if you are serious or not, this is best thread i could read here so far x'D

    This Striking Dummy is actually not a bad idea, it could be used as a lvl 70 core ability to let boss target dummy instead of you for HP remaining.
    Thou since Living Dead is still kind of problematic, i woudn't mind this ability for DRK.

    Actually only WAR doesn't seem to fit for that wonderful technique.

    Is there some official feedback thread we can present our Paladins' Striking Dummy Powershield idea?
    Semi-serious, semi-silly. Came up as a result of a conversation with a friend about the different DPS jobs and their limitations, and it occurred to me that it might be useful.

    It would be more situational utility, but I can imagine a scenario where a paladin in a cutscene is like "okay, Monk Friend, hit my shield so you don't lose your stacks."

    "...okay thanks. *puncha-punch*"
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    A skill to summon a temporary Training Dummy?

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