Nerf "Coming Into Its Own"

[VirusChris]

You can finish the 210 in 3 weeks and the 230 in one week of concertied grinding. ( you have had 4+ months to complete the 3 week step, that means pretty light grinding... kind of a free pass)

This various between people, I'm still working on the 210 step since launch so that's about 4 months now. So, no, not exactly. Is it easy to do? Yes. Is it long. Absolutely. People pace themselves at their own speed.

The relic quest is not designed to be a relic quest, it is a tool the devs use to keep older content going and keep us busy, nothing more. It will likely always be this way, and that sucks, I don't disagree that it's bad for a "Relic" quest.

Sadly I agree with this part... it's not a "real" Relic Quest. It's just a Side-Quest to prolong old content on the game and that's bad game design. If it's not fun you're doing it wrong. I frickin' hope they change this, they changed the Zodiac Brave Weapon start because Raiders complained that a Relic was better than a Raid Weapon at the time.

It should take about 4 weeks to get the relic to 230 from 200. You also save 2+ weeks of Lore that you would have to spend if you went that route. Are the three weeks plus 1000 extra Lore worth the effort.

Again, this various between people. The fastest and most focus of people can do it in 4 weeks but for a "casual" content and for some casual players it takes longer than a month. I work as a Tax Filer and these 4 months have eaten up a lot of time so I cannot work on the Relic as much as I want. Plus I feel like I'm going to fall asleep doing the Roulettes day in and day out and even the BT Quests are getting a little tiring despite the worthwhile reward of Tier IV Materia.

True effort? you gain it passively. The only true effort is the raid weapon, and getting a static and making the time for it is part of the effort.

Well for a Weapon I'm working on I want it to feel like the "effort" was worth it and feel "truly" rewarded going through everything to improve my weapon... only for it to come short in the long run. For most Anima Weapons they're like Tier 3 Weapons where Lore Weapons are Tier 2, being the 2nd best, and finally Raid Weapons being Tier 1... the best of the best and mainly due to the stats on the Weapons. For Lore Weapons it takes 3 weeks (the same effort for the 210 Relic as you said) and 7 weeks for Midas 4 to get it unless you do Raids and get the Tomestone from the AS6-8 content and upgrade from there on the 3rd week.

For Raid Weapons if you have perfect schedule and perfect teamwork you can get it within the first few weeks. Relic here, for most people, takes way longer than 3 weeks and requires Crafter classes which the Lore and Raid Weapons don't require and so the Relic Weapon is the "weakest" of the three types of Weapons. I know this is the beginning phases of the Relic, but honestly the current formula for it is bad and the effort you put into making this Relic is worthless and mostly a waste of time. In the end if might become BiS like the Zeta Weapon was, but until then the way they're handling the Relic in HW is very poorly.

Heck, what are the Japanese players' response and thoughts are on the Anima Relic?