Why not nerf relic 80 material grind too?

[LaylaTsarra]

Will probably start a huge debate about how I want to be a special snowflake blah blah blah, but in short, it's not hard. If you're not willing to put in the effort, then don't do it.

No it isn't and frankly I wish they'd never nerf them. Sorry but it doesn't need to be for everyone, there are other alternatives.

[Shamo_Lomenzo]

I've been slowly gathering my 80 materials through beast tribe quests and the poetics they give since about February and I'm finally almost done. If they nerf it now...

Just please don't nerf it now.

[WinterLuna]

No it isn't and frankly I wish they'd never nerf them. Sorry but it doesn't need to be for everyone, there are other alternatives.

It's like saying "I wanna be ripped but I don't want to go to the gym."

[Caitlinzulu]

No it isn't and frankly I wish they'd never nerf them. Sorry but it doesn't need to be for everyone, there are other alternatives.

If they never nerf the relic grind, only the people who played when it was released will ever get a completed one when its still usefull, everyone that starts one a few months later will never catch up.

You talk about alternatives, plural. The only alternatives I see are :
- primal weapons : not everybody has the skill to complete ex primals, a lot of our FC are still butting our heads against sephirot ex. we are not even considering farming for the weapon.
- midas weapons : thats even more difficult and only for the very few
- crafted weapons : not really viable because of low ilvl

- tomestone weapons (lore) : thats the only viable alternative for a lot of people to relic weapons

[WinterLuna]

If they never nerf the relic grind, only the people who played when it was released will ever get a completed one when its still usefull, everyone that starts one a few months later will never catch up.

You talk about alternatives, plural. The only alternatives I see are :
- primal weapons : not everybody has the skill to complete ex primals, a lot of our FC are still butting our heads against sephirot ex. we are not even considering farming for the weapon.

If you don't have the skills to complete the extreme primals, there is absolutely no reason why you would even need a relic weapon. The relics are not supposed to be for the majority of the playerbase. The lore weapons are ridiculously easy to get. The relic weapon is also extremely easy, it just takes a while if you don't want to grind it. I don't understand why people want the relic nerfed so badly if they have no intention of completing the harder content. It's just not needed.

[Caitlinzulu]

If you don't have the skills to complete the extreme primals, there is absolutely no reason why you would even need a relic weapon. The relics are not supposed to be for the majority of the playerbase. The lore weapons are ridiculously easy to get. The relic weapon is also extremely easy, it just takes a while if you don't want to grind it. I don't understand why people want the relic nerfed so badly if they have no intention of completing the harder content. It's just not needed.

I'm not saying it should be nerfed right now, but the first steps should be a bit by the time the next relic step comes along. So people stand a chance of catching up not for me to get an easy weapon.
Relics purpose as I understand it is to give everyone a chance at a current weapon independent of skill level.
By your argument if we dont do ex primals/alex savage we also shouldnt bother with lore gear since its the same level as the relic weapon. Which also means there is little point in doing the ex roulette dungeons.
Besides i'm curious how well you would handel midas normal with an esoterics weapon which is the highest non primal/gordias/lore weapon i know unless i'm forgetting one.

Myself i have my completed bow and by tuesday i expect to have my WAR weapon completed. After which i'll focus on the WHM one. All done unnerfed.

[WinterLuna]

By your argument if we dont do ex primals/alex savage we also shouldnt bother with lore gear since its the same level as the relic weapon. Which also means there is little point in doing the ex roulette dungeons.

But nobody is asking for the lore gear to be nerfed or made easier to get. Again, it boils down to the fact that if you don't want to put in the effort to get one, then simply don't get one. My point was that it's not necessary to have a relic weapon if you're not planning to do content which requires it (well, not even requires, but made easier).