Nerf "Coming Into Its Own"

[VirusChris]

Well, from what I've gathered, the Zenith Relic Weapon was on par with the Raid Weapon at the time of its release (putting it right up there with the T5 Raid Weapon). So actually the Relic Weapon, when it FIRST came out, was immediately better than the Raid Weapon so you might want to retracted that statement of it NEVER being stronger than Raid Tier content on release.

It was only after the Raiders whined about it (from what I've heard) and then Yoshi-P changed it so Relic Weapons were never again better than the Raid Weapons. So when the next Raid content came out the Relic was also behind then (putting it 5 ilvl lower than the Raid Weapon) making it second best instead of BiS. It was only until the end of the Relic's life cycle in 2.X that it became the BiS Weapon to get along with the T13 Raid Weapon.

The Relic just becomes obsolete soon after when the next Patch comes out with new Weapon that have better stats than the Relic. Only until the Customize Stats for the Relic comes in, most of the Relic are subpar to the easier Lore and faster to obtain (depends on Player Skill and Teamwork) Savage Raid Weapon. We'll see what the next step in 3.3 (or was it 3.4?) has to offer for the Relic... I'm going to work on my Relic, but the NIN Relic for my main has such horrible stats on it.

It's an investment weapon, but it really puts a dampen on the spirit to work on the earlier parts of it. Well these things aren't ever that easy, but at least make it fun while working on it. It's like a chores... no one EVER wants to do chores. :P

[Torunya]

no one EVER wants to do chores. :P

If we're talking about the method of the grind, I would still argue that it's much better than it potentially could have been. At present we can obtain the relic items for stage 3 of the Anima grind from quite a different number of ways. Poetic and Esoteric tomes, Allied seals, Beast Tribe quests and Treasure maps. Correct me if I missed anything. This step of the relic grind has at least 4 different ways of which you can go about grinding for your relic. For most it wouldn't even have to be a grind, as these methods coincide with what you would be doing in-game anyway. So even if you weren't consciously grinding for the relic, you would still eventually obtain it simply from doing the activities intended within the game.

The original Zodiac relic step from Nexus to Zodiac Braves was a big step similar to this. Take the Sacred Spring Water in this example, obtained from Auriana in Mor Dhona. That is the only place you can obtain that tomestone item for the Zodiac relic. SE learned from their past experiences and has given us 4 different ways to go about it this time.

The crafted items on the other hand requires the player to be resourceful (I talked about this earlier).

Alexander Gordias.

Ah right. The precision items as well. Thanks for the reminder.

[Galborion]

Poetic and Esoteric tomes, Allied seals, Beast Tribe quests and Treasure maps. Correct me if I missed anything.

Alexander Gordias.