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  1. #11
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    Lyrica_Ashtine's Avatar
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    You sound like a terrible scholar

    Not even joking
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  2. #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    [...] There's no healing that I'm ever actively doing, and I find it to be the most boring tripe in this game. It sucks, cause I like the idea behind Scholar, but the execution is just, 'Glorified DPS'.
    yupp, and that's the reason i prefer whm / ast over any combo with a sch. sure, sch is a powerfull healer. but it seems most players just play sch to be carried through the raids. if their healing sucks? who cares, the whm will handle it. if their dps sucks? who cares, the actual dps will handle it. in practice sch is just a dps role with a much simpler dps-rotation wich leads to a magnet for bad players.
    i really love having a good scholar as my co-heal. but that happens almost never xD
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  3. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrica_Ashtine View Post
    You sound like a terrible scholar

    Not even joking
    Eh. I quit Scholar back in 2.4 because I didn't enjoy how the meta was basically push everything onto the other healer and just DPS harder. The meta became even more set in stone in 3.05 and it still hasn't budged now in 3.2. Since I don't like the meta, I quit the job I liked and started playing another one.

    The way I play SCH is precisely the way I've deduced I should play based on everything I read in the forums, ironically. All that matters is DPS, after all.
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    Last edited by Thunda_Cat_SMASH; 04-12-2016 at 06:35 PM.

  4. #14
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    The more DPS you do the less you'll have to heal in the long run. Scholars also have amazing mitigation. They are less of a reactive healer. Sounds like you should play WHM or AST instead.
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  5. #15
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    Darkmoon Vael
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post

    The way I play SCH is precisely the way I've deduced I should play based on everything I read in the forums, ironically. All that matters is DPS, after all.
    Yeah no. Just no.

    You are expected to do your mitigation and healing WHILST dps'ing.

    See everytime you are pressing a dps spell, you should be manually commanding your fairy to be doing something as well.

    Sounds like you really dont understand what to do as a SCH in raids, and then come to the conclusion that there is something wrong with the class rather than something wrong with how you play it.
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  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkmoonVael View Post
    Yeah no. Just no.

    You are expected to do your mitigation and healing WHILST dps'ing.

    See everytime you are pressing a dps spell, you should be manually commanding your fairy to be doing something as well.

    Sounds like you really dont understand what to do as a SCH in raids, and then come to the conclusion that there is something wrong with the class rather than something wrong with how you play it.
    Did you miss the part where I micro-manage my fairy constantly? I'm always telling her who to heal. That's what I don't like. I don't like that, as a healer, my own personal job is to keep hammering my DPS spells while yelling at the actual healer of the duo, the fairy, to throw cure bombs at X, Y, or Z. My fairy's heals =/= my heals. Embrace is not a job or class skill, it's a pet skill.

    My personal heals are Physick, Adloquium, Succor, Indomitability, and Lustrate. Those are job/class actions, they're a part of my personal kit. Embrace is a pet action, it's not a direct part of my kit, but rather, something I tell the floating light bulb next to me to do while I continue to hammer away at my DPS spells. That is not planning. That's just being lazy and shunting my job off on someone/thing else.
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    Last edited by Thunda_Cat_SMASH; 04-12-2016 at 06:55 PM.

  7. #17
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    Rydia Feymarchian
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    Dungeons? All I do is spam DPS spells mindlessly while Selene heals everything. In 8 man content? I /wave at the other healer and proceed to spend the entire instance spamming DPS spells while Selene heals, occasionally throwing an adlo if the tank needs it, or an Indomitibility.
    Suuure, I just finished Neverreap leaving all heals on Selene while I dpsed. Also, with cohealers I usually throw a succor between dps rotations, to help them (you know, we're mitigation) and- seriously, if you don't like it, don't play it. I love scholar, I love contribuiting to the game in different ways and I have fun. If you don't like the class, don't complain so much, others may love it. (Also, you're oh-so-doing that job in a wrong way...)

    Heck, I dislike ninja but I don't go all aroudn saying 'ugh, I tried this class but it feels so lame", I just stopped leveling it up for now.

    Also, the healer part of the forum isn't the best part where to discuss why one of the healing classes is 'lazy' and such :P

    Did you miss the part where I micro-manage my fairy constantly? I'm always telling her who to heal. That's what I don't like. I don't like that, as a healer, my own personal job is to keep hammering my DPS spells while yelling at the actual healer of the duo, the fairy, to throw cure bombs at X, Y, or Z. My fairy's heals =/= my heals. Embrace is not a job or class skill, it's a pet skill.
    Now, I can understand someone not liking pet micromanagement, I quit summoner because moving Garuda around wasn't funny for me, but... eh. IT doesn't mean a class is 'bad' because you don't like it.. And- as someone who is 'maining' all healing classes because I want to be able to cover all roles (I am a terrible dps and a learning tank so- can I at least consider myself 'not so bad' in one of the three areas?) I can tell you all healing classes have pros and cons. And all of hem ca be crucial in a battle, there's no 'real healer'. There's a 'good' and a 'bad' one, thought.
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    Last edited by Rydia_Feymarchian; 04-12-2016 at 07:04 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tirissa View Post
    Tank says he already knows what he's doing so stfu. Meanwhile, chat is also being flooded with *Tank beckons to mob* over and over again. That was him trying to take the adds off of me.

  8. #18
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    Maybe OP is trying to say not SCH sucks, but the meta which SCH is pushed into? :v
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  9. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrica_Ashtine View Post
    Wtf did I just read
    There is an ignore list feature on this forum, I'd suggest to use it liberally to avoid troll threads like this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leveva Heavensreader
    A realm where one must apologize for being a victim is no realm worth living in.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hall of Novices, on Healer DPS

  10. #20
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    Velo'a Nharoz
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cherub View Post
    Maybe OP is trying to say not SCH sucks, but the meta which SCH is pushed into? :v
    It's the same meta for all healers though. In FFXIV, all healers are glorified DPS roles. It's definitely not a game for people who prefer the traditional "heal 95% of the time, kill stuff 5% of the time" in online games because the FFXIV community has created a mentality that any healer who can't DPS due to some real life circumstance, or simply chooses not to because they aren't comfortable, is scum and should "git gud or uninstall."
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