Nerf "Coming Into Its Own"

[Torunya]

The current requirements are insanity.

Not at all. You are a tank player correct? Then listen, here's what I'm doing.

I do all of my roulettes every day, reaping the Adventurer in Need reward as a tank. This is how I earn my tomestones and gil. (Yes, gil. I kid you not. I'm a filthy non-crafter.) I also do my ARR beast tribe quests, which grants me tokens I can spend on relic items as well. Note that I focus on the 4 first ARR beast tribes, as the HW ones are slower in the long run. But bear with me now. When I find myself with extra time, I queue up for some Alexander Gordias, usually either turn 1 or 4. These grant me Precision items I can trade in for relic items.

By the time I reach 80/80 relic items, I'm more than enough stocked up for gil from all the roulettes. I also sell excess grade 4 materia gained from the ARR beast tribe quests. Finally I buy the crafted items with my well-earned gil from a crafter. Any crafter. Just put up a PF asking for one, and you'll find one.

That's it. Not difficult in the slightest. Only time-consuming.

Understandable, my post on this page (default setting... not sure about people who view 20 posts or so per page) was kinda long.

I do apologize. I goofed.

[VirusChris]

Apologized accepted.

Also I'm leveling all of my classes so I'm not doing the Adventurer in Need bonuses, which help a bit with the Gil Count. Trying to cap all my classes first so my Relic is secondary on the list but working on it at the side.

I got 50/80 Items collected so far and 0 on the HQ Items. Also finally got all 5 Aether Oils so I'm set. I'm not rushing, just taking my time on this grind. Doing the BT Quests helps with leveling my classes as I got my Battles classes to 56 at least (PLD, NIN, WHM, and DRK are at 60 atm) and my Gathering is at 60 and I do make some Gil on them... selling the Maps help a lot as they're selling at high prices on MB. Crafting only got CUL at 60 and today I have got CRP to 59... my rest of my crafts are at 57 and 58 atm. Slowly, but surely I'll have everything done even though I wish I could do it faster.

[Falar]

Not at all. You are a tank player correct? Then listen, here's what I'm doing.

I do all of my roulettes every day, reaping the Adventurer in Need reward as a tank. This is how I earn my tomestones and gil. (Yes, gil. I kid you not. I'm a filthy non-crafter.) I also do my ARR beast tribe quests, which grants me tokens I can spend on relic items as well. Note that I focus on the 4 first ARR beast tribes, as the HW ones are slower in the long run. But bear with me now. When I find myself with extra time, I queue up for some Alexander Gordias, usually either turn 1 or 4. These grant me Precision items I can trade in for relic items.

That's nearly what I'm doing now. I do all daily roulettes, getting the adventurer in need bonus then I do all my beast tribes. My only disadvantage here is that all of my ARR ones are lv1. I never did anything with them until now.

[Blitzace]

There are varying levels of grind man, from slight to almost impossible. This one is way out of what I would call "normal". I would prefer a step that required going through FORTY dungeons in a certain order.

The current requirements are insanity.

Well, we could always go back to the atma farming? I mean, farming two weeks straight for my first atma. That seems nice, only 11 more to go. I honestly had no problem with this relic and i've had worse.
Sure it isn't the easiest/fastest relic to do. But thats what we have had in the past. And it might drive you nuts. But nerfing things is not the option. They should do something new, that i would agree with.

[VirusChris]

^Unfortunately for you they WILL nerf... they stated in a Live Letter before that when Patch 3.3 the previous step of the Relic will be adjusted as they add in the new step. Or was it Patch 3.35? Either way it is going to be nerf one way or another.

Anyway I'm back to farming Tomes and possible do the Alex Runs to get some of the items out of the way. 30 more to go.

[Blitzace]

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Not really unfortunately for me. I made my money, I've got my relic ages ago. I just don't see the point in why people always want things easier, And i'm not just talking about this game.
The last few online games i've played it seems more frequent how people keep asking for nerfs. people EXPECT hand outs when something is hard or takes long to get, And i'm sorry that i don't like that. I've seen some people in this forum claim they play 5-6 hours a day and it takes to long, Really? So many options in doing this, Hell level your tank do some alex runs and you get a few awesome mounts while you're at it! Maybe do some Tribes, so many options.

Yet people complain, complain, complain.

[Torunya]

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I'm inclined to agree, as I'm under the same impression.

The game already caters to both casual and hardcore players in terms of content. So if someone only has a few hours a day to play the game, it won't stop them from doing a few quick roulettes and racking up tomestones for high-level tomestone weapons and gear that are equal in level to relic items, etc. With the exception of raid-tier Savage items being slightly higher, of course. So there are options.
Even solely doing your Expert roulette a few days a week alone will max your Lore tomestones. And that's spending only around 30 minutes a day playing the game. Even for the casual player with few hours of playtime, there are options. But if you want the relic weapon more, you will have to invest as much time as everyone else. There's no getting around this, but at least SE are giving the casual player a choice.

Think of it this way as well. I would love to clear A8S, but that's still a distant dream for me because of its difficulty. Does that mean it should be nerfed? Not at all. I just need to invest the time and effort into clearing that kind of content, just like everybody else. And A8S is actually bloody difficult, in comparison to the meek relic grind. Just because something is difficult/time-consuming, does not mean it should be made easier to pamper lazy players. There are alternatives, so if one option requires too much time than you as a player can manage, then go for the less laborious option. It's there for that very reason.

[Whiteroom]

Not really unfortunately for me. I made my money, I've got my relic ages ago. I just don't see the point in why people always want things easier, And i'm not just talking about this game.
The last few online games i've played it seems more frequent how people keep asking for nerfs. people EXPECT hand outs when something is hard or takes long to get, And i'm sorry that i don't like that. I've seen some people in this forum claim they play 5-6 hours a day and it takes to long, Really? So many options in doing this, Hell level your tank do some alex runs and you get a few awesome mounts while you're at it! Maybe do some Tribes, so many options.

Yet people complain, complain, complain.

This.

People use the weirdest arguements for it too.

There are people who have been playing since this step was released, claiming they only have half or so by now...
Well clearly you don't even play enough to consider this quest. Even casually buying these thing should have got them this by now, yet they seem to think they are entitled to it, because it's in the game.

They see that this next step is a breeze and then keep making up arguements, because they see the benefit now, and think they should have it. Maybe they thought they were smart, "oh, I'm going to wait until the next step is released, when they nerf it, why would I do it now!" And they believe that because they made this assumption, SE has to do it, even though they haven't done that before.

[Senjimusou1]

I think that the step isn't that bad. Yea for me being deployed it doesn't work out to well with my bad internet connection. Yet I'm sitting at 29/80 and with most of the crafted items. I don't care if they nerfed it or not. I mean ill complete it once i get back. I just wish i had the internet and time to actually do it like i did for the last relic. To me if they nerf the step fine. If they don't thats fine also.

[VirusChris]

The step isn't bad, but it's tedious and boring to do. I rather do the Primal EX fights or 20 dungeons... at least that's more fun than grinding day in and day out of Dailies to get tokens. Though the Alex runs are like that, but it's sort of mind-numbing. Hopefully the next step after ilvl230 is better and more fun engaging than the ilvl210 step.