Nerf "Coming Into Its Own"

[VirusChris]

I don't really want it easier... I just want to go by it a little faster.

It's just at this point the Reward for taking a long time and effort to make the Relic... isn't really worth and you can do other better things to do. I have the NIN Lore Weapon already as I saved it and it be far surpasses the NIN Relic at this point making the NIN Relic I'm going for worthless. This weapon is suppose become an almighty weapon and people "whined" how better it was than Raid Weapons they made it weaker than Raid and this is the result. I'm not saying to completely make the Anima Relic instant, but allow us to gain Tomes faster or cut the amount of items we need in half so it's a little more lax to do.

For myself I can play for about 4 - 6 hours a day due to work and I don't have a lot of time to play as I used at the moment (next week I should be able to play for more than 6+ hours as before) so compared to Lore Weapon (which is easier and better than most Relic) and how quickly some people can get Raid Weapons with their teamwork and skills... the Relic feels like a lost cause with its current grind especially since most people see it as a "Glamour" Weapon than a powerful weapon to help you with most content.

The reason why it's so "expensive" is because the playerbase blows up the prices so they can get rich quick instead of helping their fellow players and make reasonable prices... I'm not saying to have it at 50k but something a lot of casual people can get for a "casual" grind for a weapon.

And I'm doing it because I want the Relic even if the grind is long and expensive... I want to complete it for the Storyline and for the Weapon and people who say "Then don't do it. It's not needed. You're not forced to do it" are just whiners themselves who are worse than people whining about Relics and nerfs. Not everybody has or wants to level up Crafting and Gathering so they're hard press to make as much Gil as others or don't have either of them maxed out on levels yet. I dislike people like that, everyone experiences things or do content on their own pace differently.

I do have a FC and crafters who are willing to help me as long as I get the crafts... though even with HQ mats it's still going to be tough. Not everyone is lucky enough to have someone in their FC be able to do it.

Honestly if it bugs you so much just shut your trap and walk away, no need to repeat the same things over and over again (and don't dare throw this back at me... I'm aware even the people whining about nerfs are doing the same). The next "nerf" to the Relic is coming to 3.3 soon so there's no need to keep on beating this dead horse already. So far Raid and Tome Weapons are faster and better than Relic Weapons so why shouldn't the Relic at it's current form be quicker to get as well if most of them are poor for most classes? (NIN stats suck on them)

Not everybody who WANTS to do this the grind to be like this and wish it went by faster. I know the Relic in the end of the 3.x Patch and Storyline it will be BiS like the Zodiac before it and that in itself is worth getting it so I plan to try to get it before the nerfs are done if I can. Gives me a reason to level up all my classes and motivation to accomplish my goal... though going to get ALL Anima Weapons for all my classes is going to be a pain and why I wish for this particular step to be much quicker to finish. This is the only current step of the Relic that is frowned upon the most.

[Saint_Angeles]

Just collect the mats and crystals and find a crafter that will cut you a deal on making the relic items. This game launches Gil from a cannon on all sides, it's not the travesty of justice that gets portrayed.

[Whiteroom]

Just collect the mats and crystals and find a crafter that will cut you a deal on making the relic items. This game launches Gil from a cannon on all sides, it's not the travesty of justice that gets portrayed.

Ikr, gil just flows in, you would almost have to try to not make it. Pretty much the only way not to is if you just run dungeons and roll on nothing, don't send out retainers and spend what little you do make on useless items.

[VirusChris]

Well excuse me for only making 100k a day and I use those gil to try to get Daily Deliveries done for my Crafts to powerlevel them and my Server likes to price the HQ Items as 120 - 200K+. At least the Relic HQ Items are cheaper than that, but I like to hit Lv60 on all my crafts.

I don't have the time to collect mats and make demanded items to sell on MB for quick Gil. Not everyone can make over 10 million gil in a week.

[Torunya]

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Excuse me, but to me it sounds like you're upset because the amount of time investment the relic grind requires doesn't cater to your schedule.

No one is forcing you or anyone to partake in the relic grind. If you think it is too much, then simply don't do it. That's completely fine. And it is also the reason why there are alternatives like the tomestone weapons you can obtain instead.

[VirusChris]

Good god I said I WANT to do it even if it's long and expensive. Did you not read one of my post? I'm stating not everyone can make some much Gil like it's an overflowing river so don't make it sound like everyone can get rich quick and easy and if that was the case a lot more people wouldn't have complained as much about the cost of the items as they should.

*Shakes head* I'm not going to bother with this.

[Torunya]

Did you not read one of my post?

I admit I skimmed most of it. It was long. q.q

[Blitzace]

I like actually PLAYING this game, not working it as a second job.

The 2nd stage of the anima grind to me was perfect, we need more requirements like that. Not a step that promotes sleep inducing grinding for a month and 5-10 million gil worth of HQ crafts from the MB.

Oke who is forcing you to do relic then?
I could say the same. I want them to make savage more easier cause its too hard for 90% of the people.
And we don't want a 2nd job. We would like things to be spoon fed to us.

just stop it already, Accept that certain things just take time.(Relic always was a long grind)
And once again, Get the mats and get someone to craft em for you then.

[Falar]

Oke who is forcing you to do relic then?
I could say the same. I want them to make savage more easier cause its too hard for 90% of the people.
And we don't want a 2nd job. We would like things to be spoon fed to us.

just stop it already, Accept that certain things just take time.(Relic always was a long grind)
And once again, Get the mats and get someone to craft em for you then.

There are varying levels of grind man, from slight to almost impossible. This one is way out of what I would call "normal". I would prefer a step that required going through FORTY dungeons in a certain order.

The current requirements are insanity.

[VirusChris]

I admit I skimmed most of it. It was long. q.q

Understandable, my post on this page (default setting... not sure about people who view 20 posts or so per page) was kinda long.