How to Dragoon per Second: A DPS Paradigm

[Khadroth]

anyone got some tips for my build? drowning in ss and have acc problems -_-

http://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/5733472/

Looks like you could have melded Crit in areas that you melded det and accuracy. Meanwhile you used det4s which you could have spent on accuracy though I'm imagining at this point you're meaning you have too much accuracy, as with food and one meld swap you'd be comfortably within cap range of a8s.

Honestly if you were going to go that all out with crafted gear and overmelding I would have gone the vitality route with my right side. As it stands you don't really have any effective way to dump SS or Acc without remelding or switching to lore/midan.

[Ninjah2r]

with acc problems I meant having too low accuracy, I now swapped out my belt for a crafted one. Check the link again lodestone should update my gear.

[Khadroth]

You're kind of in a bad spot since you put rank 5s in the weapon and your other lore pieces. You'd need to swap one of them for a rank 4 accuracy or consider changing pieces or using suboptimal food. With HQ pipira pira and the meld swap you'll be right at the 705 needed for A8S. Beyond that... you are in the same guild as the creator of this guide

[Ninjah2r]

yupp I know, switched servers and moved to cerb, asked dervy if I could join his fc since I never knew anyone else on cerberus.

[Thendiel]

Finally updated some of the material (accuracy caps, formulas, videos), fam. Lazy Thendiel is lazy.

Awesome work with caps and BiS theorizing all around. For those of you on A8S, your continued science-ing would be greatly appreciated. I'd really love hear some testing of accuracy values in the 700-704 range, so that we can be 100% sure before confirming a BiS set for the tier.

Question: If we have a set with about 550 SS, don't the drawbacks go beyond the loss of 2-Geirskoguls-per-BFB? Won't we also run the risk of tiny pockets of Heavy Thrust downtime (which could cost us auto-attack damage) and/or lost Phlebotomize ticks? The windows of downtime are extremely small, but they're there.

Other question--to Jack, regarding the opener: Do your damage models regarding the opener account for auto-attacks, out of curiosity?

[whythehate]

Hi all, I have started to take a real interest drg. I'm looking for an alt job mainly for things like seph ex and below, as it stands lore pieces are completely out of the question since I took a 2 week break.

I'm looking to build a set as competitive as possible using midas and crafted gear, could anyone recommend a set to aim for? Also is the drg relic a worthwhile investment? I'm currently almost at all 80 items due to not wanting to continue the pointless blm relic.

What sort of ss should I aim for and acc levels (enough for seph ex and below)
Thank you for your time, really enjoying the advanced opener such fun on a controller lol

My current gear is all i210 eso, I brought crafted rings today with a plan to full crit meld those

[JackFross]

My opener calculations don't factor in autos, because I'm dumb, mostly. I always forget about them and how they're affected by buffs. I doubt it'll be much different than the other way of doing the buffs, since you'll still have the exact same amount of full-buff time, just slightly less B4B+BL overlap. The difference in gcd potency is close enough that accounting for autos could make my opener weaker. I'm too use to using it now (and really like the B4B extension onto the following HT) so I doubt I'd change, anyway.

My current gear is all i210 eso, I brought crafted rings today with a plan to full crit meld those

This is likely a good base set to work off of. http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/TQ6V

You'll wanna meld mostly Crit, but be sure to bump Accuracy up to ~650-660 to make sure you meet accuracy requirements for Sephirot. It's only around 650-ish, but nobody ever really cared enough to figure it out exactly, so I'd err on the safe side and go 660 or 650 with Flint Caviar to bump over 660.

[SunnyHirose]

Question: If we have a set with about 550 SS, don't the drawbacks go beyond the loss of 2-Geirskoguls-per-BFB? Won't we also run the risk of tiny pockets of Heavy Thrust downtime (which could cost us auto-attack damage) and/or lost Phlebotomize ticks? The windows of downtime are extremely small, but they're there.

My current model accounts for this downtime with the probabilistic penalty to autos. Same deal with DoT ticks being clipped or falling off. I use no correction for Fey Wind one way or another, or for Geirskogul for that matter.

Basically, the DPS potentially lost from not clipping HT/Phlebotomize is outweighed by the gains in CT uptime and Crit/Det. Fey Wind should bring Geirskogul in line with expectations (particularly because it's front-loaded) and will re-clip your stuff half the time anyway.

[Anagantios]

Dropping by to congratulate you on your hard work. It's gonna be pretty helpful once I grind five more levels on my DRG.

As for the accuracy cap on M4S/A8S, it'll be a toughie to figure out the exact number until people test the 700-704 range since 705 is pseudo-confirmed as minimum efficient cap for now. Cheers!

[Thendiel]

I haven't missed at 700 accuracy yet.

I'm assuming this was over at least a few hours of progression? If so, that's really good to know.