Quote Originally Posted by randysquirrel View Post
Then again on my server there are a lot of PFs that state "clear/farm". I don't really get this. if it's a clear, then it's not a farm, even if it goes down, doesn't automatically mean you are now farm status. I think "farm" used to have a very specific meaning, being you have cleared something multiple times, know all mechanics inside out, and can do them instinctively and effortlessly. Now it seems you clear something once, even if you're dead the whole time and get carried, then suddenly you're a farmer
This is my problem with the PF, people instantly think 1 kill is enough to secure the ability to farm when its clearly not. But hey i ask if ppl have cleared they say yes, Its hard to tell if they lie due to my bonus so we go on and they wipe on P1..clearly not cleared or just killed it once.

Also the OP instantly assumes they don't put in practice, how would they know? Did they say oh its my first time ever then yes its fine...they are wanting to be carried but you cant judge the player till they do the fight.