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    Duskwight:
    Give Duskwight Claws or long fingernails that match their skin color by default.
    Give Duskwight black sclera for males and females. Maybe even different eyes altogether to make them more cave-like
    Change animations for Duskwight to carry some Miqo'te animations especially for running. (Not all, mainly just the stances and some of the movements to make them more wilder.)

    Plainsfolk
    Make them look more like Taru Taru.
    Give them some cutesy Au Ra animations!

    Hellsguard
    Give them double the butt size. Honestly I don't know.. lol
    War Paint on or all over bodies?

    Keepers of the Moon
    Glowing eyes in the dark or shadowy areas.
    Bigger or longer ears.
    Unique Tattoos for face and or body.

    Xaela
    Darker sclera for females just like males. (equal opportunity!)
    Muscle Slider, adds more muscles and scales to bodies.
    Unique Tattoos and Full Body Paint, sacrificing some of the other generic options.
    Uses a mix of Highlander and Roe animations for different in and out of combat actions, not proper. Females can keep a cutesy stance.
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  2. #32
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    I was contemplating switching to an Duskwight Elezen male, but I just could not get used to their running/ sprint animation. It just feel so wooden and stiff.

    Still, it is disappointing that Raen v Xaela are just palette swap, similar to the other races excluding Hyurs. This being a new race they could have gone the Midlander-Highlander route since they clearly did not know which direction to take the Au Ra




    Would have loved it if Xaela males were more muscular, atleast
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    On topic, I do wish there were some major differences from the races but the ship has sailed, really. I don't think it's a good idea to give a big overhaul to the current races' proportions now.
    There are people who like Au Ra women being dainty for example and it would be unfair if they change that suddenly because others don't like it. Animations may be possible to give a fix though, or revert back to the 1.0 ones but PS3 limitations?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dinnertime View Post
    On topic, I do wish there were some major differences from the races but the ship has sailed, really. I don't think it's a good idea to give a big overhaul to the current races' proportions now.
    There are people who like Au Ra women being dainty for example and it would be unfair if they change that suddenly because others don't like it. Animations may be possible to give a fix though, or revert back to the 1.0 ones but PS3 limitations?
    The simple fix would be to give people a free Fantasia with a 3 day limited duration and let them switch to Raen. Honestly I can't wait for them to dump the PS-Crap. The Xaela though are NOT cutesy or proper, it is totally against their entire races design.

    Currently Xaela is pretty much the "bad boy" Au Ra, no flavor lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    The simple fix would be to give people a free Fantasia with a 3 day limited duration and let them switch to Raen. Honestly I can't wait for them to dump the PS-Crap. The Xaela though are NOT cutesy or proper, it is totally against their entire races design.
    No, that would be a bad idea and just selfish, changing something that's already been added would be unfair to the people who like Au Ra the way they are now. There are people who prefer the black scales and the dainty physique of Au Ra.
    Changing something like that so lightly would cause more complaints, especially since Au Ra were surprisingly popular and they're up there in the race with the highest player population.
    Besides, Miqo'te women are described as hunters in their description but they don't look like the sort at all, and I haven't really seen anyone complain about it over here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dinnertime View Post
    No, that would be a bad idea and just selfish, changing something that's already been added would be unfair to the people who like Au Ra the way they are now. There are people who prefer the black scales and the dainty physique of Au Ra.
    Changing something like that so lightly would cause more complaints, especially since Au Ra were surprisingly popular and they're up there in the race with the highest player population.
    Besides, Miqo'te women are described as hunters in their description but they don't look like the sort at all, and I haven't really seen anyone complain about it over here.
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ng-Conventions
    http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Miqo'te
    "Where does it state females are hunters?" I see nothing for Miqo'te here, quit making things up to suit your point. Miqo'te are hunters, but some are probably not. They are not entirely hunters which means they probably do have normal tribes lurking around. Miqo'te had a long time to develop into society.

    Actually your wrong. Since if you ever read the definition of the race that you picked your actually making it more like what you picked at the start. So they should be more happy because they are getting what they signed up for.

    I actually speak to a lot of Xaela and a lot of them are angry about how cute their race is described and looks.

    Its 'ok' as long as you still have the option to be that. However, its kind of funny to see all the proper and cutesy animations when their horns literally have blood on them...




    This is what you get when you start an Au Ra Xaela. If they cannot read then I doubt they made it past the first few quests or level 20 anyways. Sorry my opinion makes you feel bad, but I am in the opinion of "You should get what you paid for."

    Don't really care for the opinions of Emo Xaela Dark Knights and Cutesy Xaela girls because it doesn't make sense to their lore.

    However, the Raen is exactly what they are looking for by their definition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    snip
    Read: http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Miqo'te
    Also there's been evidence in the game alone that Miqo'te, particularly the Keepers, are avid hunters so it's not really hard to figure out. Don't rely on the race description alone because you can find more in-game.
    Besides, the Xaela lore in-game is so non-existent, I have to admit.

    I doubt most people actually pick a race from their lore alone, and not from how they look like. I know I didn't.

    If the people who apparently play Xaela hate their own clan then they shouldn't be playing that clan in the first place, really. That's just inadequate evidence if you've talked to only apparently "a lot" of people. To prove my point right, it's the high population of Au Ra itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dinnertime View Post
    Read: http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Miqo'te
    Also there's been evidence in the game alone that Miqo'te, particularly the Keepers, are avid hunters so it's not really hard to figure out. Don't rely on the race description alone because you can find more in-game.
    Besides, the Xaela lore in-game is so non-existent, I have to admit.

    I doubt most people actually pick a race from their lore alone, and not from how they look like. I know I didn't.

    If the people who apparently play Xaela hate their own clan then they shouldn't be playing that clan in the first place, really. That's just inadequate evidence if you've talked to only apparently "a lot" of people. To prove my point right, it's the high population of Au Ra itself.
    Yes, but the appearance should be "general" to what the race can be. Xaela, in no way shape or form BY lore and recent events cannot be cutesy and proper like they are displayed, unlike Miqo'te who have been imbedded into society. That is why they can become fierce looking hunters and i've seen that because they have very good animations for movement. The female Archer and Bard moves really well even a bit stealthfully when they move which describes that perfectly.

    However, Xaela? Improper all the way around. They literally just came here.. or (have been around?) I never got that explained.

    The ones in the Main Storyline Quest were Raen, not Xaela.

    Make a Keeper female (darker skin) wear some of the low level archer armor and get a bow and move around. You really do have a huntress feel and look to the way you move and look. Your stances out of combat are also pretty good, a large variety of sitting and the standing animation is also pretty good.

    I originally picked Xaela because they looked intimidating and mean looking. Then I got into the game and they are acting like an Elezen. It greatly disappoints me even to this day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    Yes, but the appearance should be "general" to what the race can be. Xaela, in no way shape or form BY lore and recent events cannot be cutesy and proper like they are displayed, unlike Miqo'te who have been imbedded into society. That is why they can become fierce looking hunters and i've seen that because they have very good animations for movement. The female Archer and Bard moves really well even a bit stealthfully when they move which describes that perfectly.

    However, Xaela? Improper all the way around. They literally just came here.. or (have been around?) I never got that explained.

    The ones in the Main Storyline Quest were Raen, not Xaela.
    You say Miqo'te look okay as hunters and Au Ra aren't when they have fairly similar proportions, and class/job animations are all the same besides Lalafell and Roegadyn with tweaks.
    Xaela are basically nomads. There's also Xaela NPCs on a few quests like the job quests and the Alexander storyline.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    I originally picked Xaela because they looked intimidating and mean looking. Then I got into the game and they are acting like an Elezen. It greatly disappoints me even to this day.
    In the reveal of Au Ra, there was no lore description accompanying it but they still looked the same 'til this day. Unless you missed that.
    The females never looked intimidating, ever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dinnertime View Post
    You say Miqo'te look okay as hunters and Au Ra aren't when they have fairly similar proportions, and class/job animations are all the same besides Lalafell and Roegadyn with tweaks.
    Xaela are basically nomads. There's also Xaela NPCs on a few quests like the job quests and the Alexander storyline.
    I think that is more story developers with a brief disconnect from the game's lore. However that is kind of like the Dark Elf in Zek in EQ2 who is helping good guys. A small exception to the race and culture. Dark Knight one didn't have much information about the character himself, story was mostly about the girl if I remember. Don't want to spoil though.

    Quote Originally Posted by dinnertime View Post
    In the reveal of Au Ra, there was no lore description accompanying it but they still looked the same 'til this day. Unless you missed that.
    The females never looked intimidating, ever.
    Concept Art did though. Also the reveal of Dark Knight had completely different animations and graphics to it. A lot of them were removed and replaced with like the .. red cloud of hurts my eyes.

    A lot of all of this problem though could be solved with customizable animations like voices at start. Pick what your race 'can' be.
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