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    Quote Originally Posted by Colino View Post
    Obviously the already have the assets so I see no reason why not to add this to the global version
    Many times there are licencing issues involved. The artist/company who makes the model or textures has not allowed it for distribution outside certain regions.

    It is possible that the company with distribution rights in the Chinese region has employed people to make the asset, and then sent that to SE-JP to be added into the game. As such SE-JP can't send it to the other regions.

    Only a guess, though this is how it normally works with multi-country distribution of any creative material from films to music to computer games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    Many times there are licencing issues involved. The artist/company who makes the model or textures has not allowed it for distribution outside certain regions.

    It is possible that the company with distribution rights in the Chinese region has employed people to make the asset, and then sent that to SE-JP to be added into the game. As such SE-JP can't send it to the other regions.

    Only a guess, though this is how it normally works with multi-country distribution of any creative material from films to music to computer games.
    Wouldn't SE have some kind of an agreement to use it one its game though ? (as "owner" of the game)
    In that case, why would it be region locked ?

    If we get the China dress.....could we get the korean one too ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celef View Post
    Wouldn't SE have some kind of an agreement to use it one its game though ? (as "owner" of the game)
    In that case, why would it be region locked ?

    If we get the China dress.....could we get the korean one too ?

    The issue there stems back to how the Chinese and Korean games are distributed by other companies, not Sony. SE pretty much says "Here is our game, you may distribute it to your country," and then it is up to the distributor to work out these exclusive deals. So my guess is, SE would have to get the other distributors to agree to release the content. (Aka: pay them.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by LadyVal View Post
    The issue there stems back to how the Chinese and Korean games are distributed by other companies, not Sony. SE pretty much says "Here is our game, you may distribute it to your country," and then it is up to the distributor to work out these exclusive deals. So my guess is, SE would have to get the other distributors to agree to release the content. (Aka: pay them.)
    Oh sounds like we are not getting them ^^"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Watachy View Post
    C'était en fait SE qui survolait Ishgard sur une liasse de billets

    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    People don't know how to take criticism anymore, and bad play is rewarded with with a coddling mentality. Yes, this is a casual game for the most part - that doesn't mean people need to walk on eggshells in fear of getting reported for pointing out things. This whole 'please don't say anything even slightly negative' mentality that we seem to be going towards and the devs seemingly pushing towards it is creating a disturbing trend.

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    i would pay for the china clothing.

    I hope we get it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celef View Post
    Oh sounds like we are not getting them ^^"
    No need to immediately jump to that conclusion.
    Quote Originally Posted by Zhexos View Post
    Thanks for the additional input, everyone! Your voices (and smashes of the "Like!" button) have been heard and the dev. team is considering adding these items!
    All LadyVal was saying was that it's not so easy as to assume that "well, SE owns the game, they should already have released these items to all players". And that they'd likely need to negotiate some kind of deal with the Korean and Chinese companies in order to 'port' the clothing over to SE's version of the game. Of course, this kind of negotiation doesn't necessarily have to be difficult and/or expensive, but I think it's still a matter of, "You guys made this item for your players, now we need to make it available to players on our servers."
    Most likely, they'll end up on mogstation if it happens, if only to give the FFXIV staff a quantifiable measurement of "this many players wanted it; does it make up for the effort/cost of negotiation? If yes, it shows we can do it again. If no, we can't justify to our bosses why we should do it again". Not that I like the thought of stuff ending up in the cash shop at all, but with these cross-game items I can at least understand it.

    And yes, I do hope they'll look at making the Korean outfits (and minion) available to us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noxifer View Post
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    Do you know if we (NA and EU) have some exclusive items like them ? Could "trade" some off them, you give us this, we give you that kind of deal
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    Last edited by Celef; 04-07-2016 at 11:47 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celef View Post
    Do you know if we (NA and EU) have some exclusive items like them ? Could "trade" some off them, you give us this, we give you that kind of deal
    With JP, no, we have all the same items they do, we just don't have to excess to all of them yet.
    As for the Chinese and Korean games, if they don't have something in the game, it is probably because its against the law there. Trading is probably not gonna work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noxifer View Post
    All LadyVal was saying was that it's not so easy as to assume that "well, SE owns the game, they should already have released these items to all players". And that they'd likely need to negotiate some kind of deal with the Korean and Chinese companies in order to 'port' the clothing over to SE's version of the game.
    Exactly, I wasn't saying it's impossible, I was just saying that it's not just like a flip of the switch they have to make, nor is it SE sitting back and going "LOL look at the silly westerners wanting this content!" either. lol. There's just a couple of hoops to consider, that's all.

    Quote Originally Posted by Celef View Post
    Do you know if we (NA and EU) have some exclusive items like them ? Could "trade" some off them, you give us this, we give you that kind of deal
    As far as I know, we don't have anything exclusive to us other than some undead/skeleton enemy looks. China can't show undead so they have to consider that in their enemy models, but even Gold Saucer was changed from a casino to amusement park so that China could have it in their game without any fuss. Maybe Japan will offer up their maid and butler outfits? I personally would love to have all of the regional outfits, so, whatever they need to share from our version of the game to theirs I fully support.
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    Last edited by LadyVal; 04-08-2016 at 04:33 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LadyVal View Post
    China can't show undead so they have to consider that in their enemy models, but even Gold Saucer was changed from a casino to amusement park so that China could have it in their game without any fuss.
    Gold Saucer was designed after the FF VII Gold Saucer, and even there it was already more an amusement park than a casino.
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