tanks not using cooldowns?

[Tanathya]

or when you remind them what cooldowns are, they finally start using them, but all at once, when almost all of the mobs are dead. So many times, pull 10 mobs, pop all CD when only three are left...

I've seen those so many times! Every single CD at the same freaking time, and right before that group is dead. Always.

[Jim_Berry]

As a tank, notably a PLD, who spams Duty Finder, I get all kinds of complaints from other players who either don't want to tank themselves, don't have a Lv50+ tank, or just have the need to complain about everything. Everyone is labeled bad to someone in some form.

I pop my CDs often. Heck, if the DPS are melting down mobs, I pull more. If I pull a LOT, I pop Hallowed Ground. Problem is, people would spend more time calling me stupid rather than using that time to dps. I'm not sure how it's labeled "stupid". Then, I get people who complain that my dps isn't contributing enough because I'm spamming Rage of Halone combo. If I have two BLMs who are burning quick or sprint ahead of me and start pulling and attacking before me, then yes, I will spam Halone in rotation of each mob rather than tossing in Goring Blade or Royal Authority.

At the end of the day, when you and two others sit in DF for a while waiting on a tank, just remember that even the decent or good tanks would rather do other things.

[Alistaire]

I've seen those so many times! Every single CD at the same freaking time, and right before that group is dead. Always.

I once had a guy tell me on PLD I should macro Fight or Flight to my Rage of Halone. Just out of nowhere, I guess cause he noticed I was using it in different points of a combo or something? He even said something to the effect of he was still going to do that himself when I replied telling him he should unmacro that because he'd end up with times using it on the last hit of a pull, etc.

(I know, not a defensive cooldown, but the idea is the same, some people have no clue about cooldown use and even bind them to combo moves.)

[Odett]

As a tank, notably a PLD, who spams Duty Finder, I get all kinds of complaints from other players who either don't want to tank themselves, don't have a Lv50+ tank, or just have the need to complain about everything. Everyone is labeled bad to someone in some form.

I really don't mean for you to take offense to this, but if you're get as many complaints as you claim in your post and across your other forum posts, perhaps you should be open to the idea that you may not be correct in the context of the situation. It's generally good to be open to advice, you never know how much it could help you improve.

At the end of the day, when you and two others sit in DF for a while waiting on a tank, just remember that even the decent or good tanks would rather do other things.

That cannot be farther from the truth if you actually enjoy tanking. A tank is neither a martyr nor a group's savior simply for existing; you're not doing other players a favor just for showing up. I urge players that have this mindset to hop off their pedestal, and go play a role they actually enjoy; this game does not need more tank divas.

[Tanathya]

A tank is neither a martyr nor a group's savior simply for existing; you're not doing other players a favor just for showing up. I urge players that have this mindset to hop off their pedestal, and go play a role they actually enjoy; this game does not need more tank divas.

+1. Similar to what I said before, if a tank's bad, others should let him know they're as kickable as the rest.

[Gunnie]

What I notice as a new player (used to tanking in other MMO's), Due to not knowing the layout and how hard certain trash hits, I tend to use cooldowns to much. Which sometimes bites me in the ass.

When there's room to pull 2 packs, ofcourse I'll use some cooldown until the group is thinned out enough to survive easy and have something up for the next pull. Some more experience will make sure this will go smoother.

I don't know why tanks wouldn't use their cooldowns, they're made to be used.

[jmanfrw]

I've had way too many deaths where I didn't watch a single heal get cast at all. I need my cooldowns for those idiotic periods, with a healer like that, my cooldowns are wasted during the time they actually know where their heal buttons are.

Tanks like you die a lot more than you have to for a few reasons.

1 you aren't using Cd's effectively and so it's harder to heal/ catches us off guard (I should be able to hop in cleric stance after regen + e4e for at least 5 seconds)

2 We get super bored just babysitting you and get distracted because we aren't kept busy stance dancing (you're essentially asking us to sit there and hit one button every 5-20 seconds for 20-40 minutes.)

Basically your behavior is causing you to see the worse in healers causing a vicious cycle where we perform poorly or in untrustworthy ways (letting your hp drop so you actually use your so called "emergency" cooldowns) which only fosters your distrust of healers.

[MeridaQ]

I think this conversation should really just be no matter what class you are playing, learn and use your full toolset. There is use with pretty much every skill, do your best and hope your party does the same. If you get advice listen most advice is there to help.

As for tanks (war main) it troubles me to hear from FC mates that I am the easiest tank to heal and that they dread warriors in DF. Please use CDs. ;-;

[Gameplayzero]

I think this conversation should really just be no matter what class you are playing, learn and use your full toolset. There is use with pretty much every skill, do your best and hope your party does the same. If you get advice listen most advice is there to help.

As for tanks (war main) it troubles me to hear from FC mates that I am the easiest tank to heal and that they dread warriors in DF. Please use CDs. ;-;

basically this!

[Jamillion]

Snip.

You should level a healer sometime so you can see things from a non-MT perspective. It's not good to shoehorn yourself into one role without introspection in my opinion. It sounds like you may benefit from it.