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  1. #11
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    MiniPrinny's Avatar
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    Sakura Yukimoto
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    Balmung
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Kathyz View Post
    What happe[ned] [recent]ly? Why [are] a lot of people try[ing] to "fix" DRK? I [didn't] even know it was broken because [doesn't] look like that to me.
    Nothing has really changed recently for the Job itself, more that the meta-game has shifted due to buffs to Paladin and nerfs to the content's damage check difficulty overall. Because of this shift, the chinks in Dark Knight's defenses and offenses have been more apparent, which is why people are wishing for change. To be completely honest, those chinks have been around since day one, but Paladin was so bad at the start of Heavensward due to the downright hostile raiding environment, that people took Dark Knight out of necessity, not because it was ever "balanced" or well made.
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    Something... something... edginess... shadows... wait... I'm supposed to be a paragon of love and justice!

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    Faran Lucavi
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    Siren
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    About the only change I'd like to see with DRK is adding a Dark Arts effect to Blood Price that changes it from Damage = MP to Damage = HP. Downside? Dark Arts is expensive AND you sacrifice good MP recovery.
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    Two peanuts are walking down the street. One is a salted.

  3. #13
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    Zari Lutus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathyz View Post
    What happeb lately? Why a lot of people try to "fix" DRK? I dint even know it was broken because dont look like that to me
    I is less that and more the OP doesn't really like how it works and wants to change the job completely to fit what he wants it to be
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    Keiga Dawnstar
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    Tonberry
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    Warrior Lv 60
    i support the idea of my monk doing 20% more dmg with blood for blood.
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    Grandfall Fraxinus
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    Tonberry
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    i agree 100%
    and warrior should have paladin's fight or flight and paladin should have warrior's berserk
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  6. #16
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    Shao Kuraisenshi
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    Ragnarok
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kathyz View Post
    What happeb lately? Why a lot of people try to "fix" DRK? I dint even know it was broken because dont look like that to me
    and many ppl are not happy with drk come a tank class, is funny how the role sistem make ppl mad for what job come to X role ussing the excuses like "this class was dps" when in the older ones all clases are dps except some pure healers like white mage.
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    Ragology's Avatar
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    Brown Sugar
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    Monk Lv 62
    A long time ago I wanted warrior to have Lancer for its cross class because Invigorate and a parrying cooldown sounded nice. I'm glad for the heavensward skills that covered these bases.
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  8. #18
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    Thanatos Ravensweald
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    Quote Originally Posted by shao32 View Post
    and many ppl are not happy with drk come a tank class, is funny how the role sistem make ppl mad for what job come to X role ussing the excuses like "this class was dps" when in the older ones all clases are dps except some pure healers like white mage.
    Oh no i'm fine for it being a tank class. I actually think it fits better then a DPS since most people used Dark Knight's for tanking anyways. It just has absolutely no flavor and is basicly a Paladin with some different abilities.
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    Selena Schwarz
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    Ragnarok
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by shao32 View Post
    and many ppl are not happy with drk come a tank class, is funny how the role sistem make ppl mad for what job come to X role ussing the excuses like "this class was dps" when in the older ones all clases are dps except some pure healers like white mage.
    Alright, not gonna answer to this so as we don't have this debate again. And I'm biting my tongue here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    Oh no i'm fine for it being a tank class. I actually think it fits better then a DPS since most people used Dark Knight's for tanking anyways. It just has absolutely no flavor and is basicly a Paladin with some different abilities.
    Where? Lol. Look, it's fine if you like it on FFXIV, enjoy it like I do (even though I stopped looking at it as a dark knight), but please, don't make things up, which is what you always do.
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    Last edited by Tanathya; 04-03-2016 at 01:31 AM.

  10. #20
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    Thanatos Ravensweald
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    Quote Originally Posted by Claymore65 View Post
    I'm sure Rogues, Monks, and Bards would love to have blood for blood become a 30% damage increase! It wouldn't unbalance content at all!

    ...Try and think a little more before posting ideas. While switching the cross class abilities of Dark Knight to another class certainly has merit (such as switching Marauder for Rogue or something), completely changing an already strong ability possessed by a large number of classes, in addition to wildly changing the Dark Knight's cross-class selection would have way too many unintended consequences.
    I didn't think Bards and Monks and Ninjas were "pwning" the parses over other DPS classes. It might actually balance some. I know Ninja and Bard are quite low on the list. Don't know about Monk. However did ya notice you also have 10 seconds less of an uptime of it, which is also a nerf as well as an increased cooldown.

    It will make Blood for Blood better for burst damage, but in the end it may even lower their overall parse due to less sustain damage.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tanathya View Post
    Alright, not gonna answer to this so as we don't have this debate again. And I'm biting my tongue here.



    Where? Lol. Look, it's fine if you like it on FFXIV, enjoy it like I do (even though I stopped looking at it as a dark knight), but please, don't make things up, which is what you always do.
    Final Fantasy 4? I always get confused. I remember using Dark Knight as a DPS Main Tank. It was one of the FFs but basicly I always believed Dark Knight shouldn't even use mana much and should be all about Health Manipulation with Lifetaps and such. Kind of like Shadowknight and Reavers in EQ and Rift. You can sacrifice health if its to gain more back or reduce damage in some way. It was a cool playstyle, and honestly: it worked.
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    Last edited by Nektulos-Tuor; 04-03-2016 at 01:37 AM.

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