Lancer skill for Dark Knight

[Chronons]

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Despite the fact that people seem to treat your posts with disdain(wont comment on the merit of that), i'm glad to see this idea catching on. However, why do you think the BfB skill needs to be changed if added to DRK? The real benefit is the boost to OT dps, making PLD and DRK a more viable option. Being able to BfB while MT is a secondary benefit. While in Grit/Darkside, BfB brings you to +0% inc and +.45%out going damage. Maybe that sounds insignificant, its actually 5.45% increase to your dps when BfB is activated while in Grit. Right now stance dancing is arguable hardest on DRK (post 3.2 tank changes). Grit being on GCD and costing a large amount of MP(more valuable to DRK than PLD) means its a big investment to step out. BfB as is would give DRK the chance to generate more aggro while in Grit, give it moments of "pseudo" stance dancing, and better OT presence. I am curious why it would need to be buffed before adding it to DRK?

[Nyghtmarerobu]

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While you ask for something intresting, the sheer amount of balance needed to make this happen, is not something that SE will go with. What are you willing to give up for it? Glad cross or Mrd Cross? How are you gonna balance it for Lancer/Dragoon, and by extension, every other job that uses lancer as a sub job? You have neat idea's, but you need to think things through. The system is the way it is for a reason, and while I'm all for good ideas, this is not one.

[aleph_null]

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Well to be fair balancing is not his job, it's SE's. Also I don't see DRK getting lancer cross class would shift the balance between tanks and dps. BfB is (iirc) 10% dmg increase for 20s with 80s cd, effectively a 2.5% dps increase overall. If anything it'll affect balance between tanks, but I don't think it'll disturb dps jobs.

For now dropping gladiator cross class for a tank is not feasible, until we see a job that has its own provoke skill for tank swaps (in which case I'd expect them to give every tank job/class their own provoke).

Honestly I don't see this happening until a new expansion comes out though.

[MagiusNecros]

They won't change cc skills and DRK won't get better overnight with a patch.

Point is for optimal performance the party needs to be built around the DRK.

And for the DRK it's go MT or go home.

[shao32]

Chronons: if i use a defensive un a tank búster i prefer by far one you are secure to get the mitigation vs one how can offer my ass to the boss, shepirot for example tank towers, DRK only have 2 skill for physical, 3 with foresight, 3 defensive vs 3 towers, you want to try ir with keen and darkdance or is not better have foresight up and hace the chance with parry dark dance? Double check mitigation vs 1 rng one, yes more recast but better result, this game you know when the boss hit hard in any moment

[Jukebox12]

This does include keen furry right cuz if ur mting with everything that lancers have seems a bit op( 70% but if we got lancer keen furry it will be 110%) ifinite low blow(only for physical dmg)

[Tanathya]

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I also tanked crap on WHM due to its high magic damage resistance, and I doubt you'd ever label WHM as a tank. The truth is the skills given to DRK were the opposite of anything tanky. I was a DRK main too and I tanked with it as well, but no, it wasn't anything close to a tank. The high enmity attached to its spells and skills was meant to make them more tactical. You definitely wouldn't grab a DRK to tank ever, and Ultima/Omega was best tanked by a NIN/DRK because of that same enmity plus ninjutsu's enmity coupled with Yonin. In fact, you didn't tank as a DRK/NIN because of DRK's prowess to tank, but because you had the almighty Utsusemi, which is NIN's. Without that you would've kissed the floor faster than probably any other job. And if you needed something like a relic (I had a Ragnarok myself) to tank, then that's further prove that it was not a tank by any means.

As a side note, you could merit Souleater so the enmity was lowered significantly.