Who actually got conj , so that hey could be a dmg mage ?

[Kinseykinz]

SO i was thinking...maybe CNJ got Curaga 1 and 2 and the raises right now to balance out some stuff down the road.

Here's what I mean.
So. If I'm set up as CNJ(without Job equipped), I'll be able to help my party by 'main healing' and backup nuking/debuffing. As a CNJ (no Job equipped) I will have access to Curaga/Curaga II and Raise II/Rebirth.

BUT: Let's just assume the mage with the Elemental Nukes gets to unlock BLM Job (because for the Love of the God's, that's what a black mage has been in every other FF game)

If I Equip BLM Job (CNJ/BLM) Now I am main Nuker/DD mage but I no longer can use Curaga/Curaga 2 or RaiseII/Rebirth...at least not at rank 50. (I see as the level cap is upped, this could change with our level).
This could explain the high mp cost of cures/raises as well....just a thought

THM really should be the White Mage...the chapel's in Uldah (the 'pure' one...not just the 'dark' one)... it makes sense, more sense anyway than making the mage with FLARE the healer. Oh, and the new Company gears for each town....Uldah's seems slightly more 'healer' friendly.

[Klive]

SO i was thinking...maybe CNJ got Curaga 1 and 2 and the raises right now to balance out some stuff down the road.

Here's what I mean.
So. If I'm set up as CNJ(without Job equipped), I'll be able to help my party by 'main healing' and backup nuking/debuffing. As a CNJ (no Job equipped) I will have access to Curaga/Curaga II and Raise II/Rebirth.

BUT: Let's just assume the mage with the Elemental Nukes gets to unlock BLM Job (because for the Love of the God's, that's what a black mage has been in every other FF game)

If I Equip BLM Job (CNJ/BLM) Now I am main Nuker/DD mage but I no longer can use Curaga/Curaga 2 or RaiseII/Rebirth...at least not at rank 50. (I see as the level cap is upped, this could change with our level).
This could explain the high mp cost of cures/raises as well....just a thought

THM really should be the White Mage...the chapel's in Uldah (the 'pure' one...not just the 'dark' one)... it makes sense, more sense anyway than making the mage with FLARE the healer. Oh, and the new Company gears for each town....Uldah's seems slightly more 'healer' friendly.

I was questioning if we lose the class specific skills/spells when we equip a job. I am guessing that we do, since those are intended to be "class defining" skills/spells and when you have a job equipped you are no longer that class. If CNJ losses its AoE heals and Rebirth with a job, since it isn't a "conjurer" anymore, Black Mage would clearly be it's job.

[sylvestew]

Here is an Idea how about we stop splitting Whm and Blm up. The most logical thing would have conj get them both, b/c it obviously has both of their abilities. Is that so hard to believe. Now Thm will probably get some other type of mage like rdm cause they have the debuffs and what about SCH everyone talks about light and dark arts sounds like a sch to me. There are many things SE could do, but to me Con will get both blm and whm. While thm gets some other mage style class. Well there is my insight good day lol.

[Kinseykinz]

Here is an Idea how about we stop splitting Whm and Blm up. The most logical thing would have conj get them both, b/c it obviously has both of their abilities. Is that so hard to believe. Now Thm will probably get some other type of mage like rdm cause they have the debuffs and what about SCH everyone talks about light and dark arts sounds like a sch to me. There are many things SE could do, but to me Con will get both blm and whm. While thm gets some other mage style class. Well there is my insight good day lol.

We all also thought CNJ= WHM/BLM for jobs...however SE said 'Each class will initially unlock one job' and then they went on to list WHM and BLM as the only mage jobs to be in the first job release....so unless SE changed their minds since then....THM=one CNJ=one....so hence the 'who's getting which debate.'

[ereskigal]

We all also thought CNJ= WHM/BLM for jobs...however SE said 'Each class will initially unlock one job' and then they went on to list WHM and BLM as the only mage jobs to be in the first job release....so unless SE changed their minds since then....THM=one CNJ=one....so hence the 'who's getting which debate.'

Nor SE or Dev has ever come out and said blm and whm will be in the first set of jobs release, that was player base sepculation base on what was in the Translations (JP to English) thread. Dev's did come out and say it will be one job per one class at first set of release.

i'll leave you with this why is nukes still on cnj? why make changes to AM spell and leave them on cnj?

[Alaltus]

We all also thought CNJ= WHM/BLM for jobs...however SE said 'Each class will initially unlock one job' and then they went on to list WHM and BLM as the only mage jobs to be in the first job release....so unless SE changed their minds since then....THM=one CNJ=one....so hence the 'who's getting which debate.'

Where does it say whm and blm are both coming in the first batch of jobs? The translation people have been going off for sometime now has said no such thing only that whm, blm, drg etc are planned and decided. The discussion for the most part has been purely fueled by the 1 class 1 job statement and both thaumaturge/conjurer players who are posting not wanting their class they leveled to be made into the healer.

[Kinseykinz]

Where does it say whm and blm are both coming in the first batch of jobs? The translation people have been going off for sometime now has said no such thing only that whm, blm, drg etc are planned and decided. The discussion for the most part has been purely fueled by the 1 class 1 job statement and both thaumaturge/conjurer players who are posting not wanting their class they leveled to be made into the healer.

Look, I'd be most happy if CNJ was able to unlock both classes...considering that's why I wanted to be a CNJ in the first place...and this discussion on 'is the article correct yes/no' has happened already within this thread and others like it. While it could be wrong or could have been an 'idea back then that SE now re-thought' (and I'd prefer this by the way), everything else from the same translation has either happened/is scheduled to happen.

In my perfect FFXIV job unlocking world CNJ= BLM/WHM and THM=RDM or something like it. I'd love this... I just also don't see it happening (really, unlocking 1 Job per Class is more than enough to keep SE busy right now...since it's not just a title, but requires storyline, gears, spells,abilities, etc...and all that takes time to create) I'd even prefer if they go the one class/job rank they 'hold' BLM currently... give CNJ the WHM but give THM the RDM...I know we'd still be disappointed no nuker specific job BUT BLM could be released in the second wave of Job classes, and probably be uber sexy if it was held a bit longer.