Anima Weapons. Putting things into perspective.

[Berethos]

thats the problem with the community(not all of them) ppl want things to be handed to them without putting work into it..

I was perfectly fine with the third step when the only other option was to get a 210 savage weapon. It fit its intended purpose then.

That I want to see it better fit its intended purpose now and believe it doesn't hardly means I want something handed to me without putting work in.

Something like making it 12 or 15 tokens each instead of 20, and NQ instead of HQ items. Bam, better fits the time and effort curve of getting to a 210 weapon.

[Whiteroom]

I was perfectly fine with the third step when the only other option was to get a 210 savage weapon. It fit its intended purpose then.

That I want to see it better fit its intended purpose now and believe it doesn't hardly means I want something handed to me without putting work in.

Something like making it 12 or 15 tokens each instead of 20, and NQ instead of HQ items. Bam, better fits the time and effort curve of getting to a 210 weapon.

But your 210 tome weapon doesn't become a 230 with almost no effort does it? Welcome to the pay off for having completed it on time. You aren't getting the 210 handed to you, you are getting the 230 handed to you.

[Ghishlain]

Atma went in with the 2.2 patch and the first adjustment came with 2.4. It was a simple drop rate adjustment.

Novus was introduced in 2.28 and Nexus in 2.38. We've only had Anima since 3.15.

I was actually just about post this very same information because I was curious when they actually did nerf the Atma drop rate. The tomestone cost was nerfed over time due to the increasing tiers of tomestones.

However, I will admit I was actually hoping for a nerf of some capacity on the Anima weapon cost since the ilvl tier for Stage 3 Anima weapon was basically wrecked the very next patch. If you consider the fact that the Atma portion of Relic weapon was nerfed when the new ilvl tier was introduced, you can sort of see the parallel of hoping for a nerf here too.

If I would take a random shot in the dark, I would imagine the Stage 3 Anima cost nerf to occur on 3.3. I doubt they're going to wait two full patch cycles (3.35) to reduce the Anima Stage 3 cost due to how late they actually launched the content within that ilvl cycle. For me, part of the issue with this "Legendary" weapon cycle compared to AAR is how irrelevant the weapon felt at its launch though the fact that they're making the new Anima i230 does restore some confidence in me that they're putting the "Legendary" weapon curve back on track.

[EDIT]Due to Ashkendor's sig I wanted to try to put "fills you with determination" when I was trying to write "restore some confidence" in my post >>;... Dat Undertale.

[Ashkendor]

If I would take a random shot in the dark, I would imagine the Stage 3 Anima cost nerf to occur on 3.3. I doubt they're going to wait two full patch cycles (3.35) to reduce the Anima Stage 3 cost due to how late they actually launched the content within that ilvl cycle. For me, part of the issue with this "Legendary" weapon cycle compared to AAR is how irrelevant the weapon felt at its launch though the fact that they're making the new Anima i230 does restore some confidence in me that they're putting the "Legendary" weapon curve back on track.

I wouldn't even assume there's going to be a cost reduction then. The first Atma adjustment just boosted the drop rate. I think it was boosted again later when the first light nerf went in, too. I know it's been boosted several times.

Too lazy to go dig through old patch notes again right now. xD

[Voltyblast]

Yeah I won't lie, I was indeed hoping for a little tone in difficulty on how to get the Anima relic but, since it remained untouched, I imply can't be bothered just yet.

Sure, I can get a 230 weapon if i did that but unless I raided (Which I do not), I don't see a reason to obtain a 230 weapon: 210 is fine for most of the normal content, if not all the content.

Oh I also forgot about sephirot weapons...but nah, not up for the stress. Still a better choice though.

Besides the crafted items are still expensive in my server: last time I checked it was going for 500k EACH. And I need 4 of those for one item! I'm not that rich: my only income is roulettes as a tank!

Ah well, looks like I'll be waiting for other ways to obtain my weapon. I like grinding, but this is pretty long and frustrating. And boring.

[Ghishlain]

I wouldn't even assume there's going to be a cost reduction then. The first Atma adjustment just boosted the drop rate. I think it was boosted again later when the first light nerf went in, too. I know it's been boosted several times.

Too lazy to go dig through old patch notes again right now. xD

Indeed, though you can't "boost the drop rate" of the stage 3 anima so the only way they can nerf the acquisition process is making the items "cheaper" (either by reducing the required number of items or reducing the cost to acquire said items).

I guess what I'm trying to say is they made it easier to progress through the stages after a period of time elapsed and I was hoping they would do that for the stage 3 due to the new ilvl tier being introduced.

Boohoo to me for being optimistic though xD I am sitting on around 30 some items of each though so I'll definitely start collecting the item for the new stage (assuming I can without having stage 3 completed) and then pick the weapon that is suitable for the healer that my static wants me to heal with once we get rolling on that.

[vigioX-Sun]

I was perfectly fine with the third step when the only other option was to get a 210 savage weapon. It fit its intended purpose then.

That I want to see it better fit its intended purpose now and believe it doesn't hardly means I want something handed to me without putting work in.

Something like making it 12 or 15 tokens each instead of 20, and NQ instead of HQ items. Bam, better fits the time and effort curve of getting to a 210 weapon.

the problem here is that you looking at the relic by item level,instead of thinking is a long run thats gonna pay off at the end,you know this is the strongest weapon right?

[ScarletDawn]

the problem here is that you looking at the relic by item level,instead of thinking is a long run thats gonna pay off at the end,you know this is the strongest weapon right?

OMG do not make me laugh this is the weakest weapon at Ilvl 230, the Lore weapon has far better stats and can be melded so the relic again is immediately eclipsed by the tome option. Which is easier, less grinding and doesn't come with a gil investment.
Sure 3.3 might bring me a Weapon with customiseble stats buy the Lore upgrade will be out by then and again the relic can not be melded which now plays a huge factor in being decent or not.

However since the Monk relic has decent 2nd stats ill go for it, but not being able to meld it with Mat V is a major loss.

[Fyce]

the problem here is that you looking at the relic by item level,instead of thinking is a long run thats gonna pay off at the end,you know this is the strongest weapon right?

It's already a "long run". Yet, the weapon is shit tier for quite a lot of jobs.
Is it wrong to ask for the most expensive weapon in the game, both in time and gils, to be good right now instead of being only worth it as a retainer weapon during its build-up process?

"You'll see in 6 months, when we'll prepare 4.0, it'll be slightly better than your other choices!", is not a valid argument for a lot of people.

[Tachyon]

Yeah I won't lie, I was indeed hoping for a little tone in difficulty on how to get the Anima relic but, since it remained untouched, I imply can't be bothered just yet.

Sure, I can get a 230 weapon if i did that but unless I raided (Which I do not), I don't see a reason to obtain a 230 weapon: 210 is fine for most of the normal content, if not all the content.

Oh I also forgot about sephirot weapons...but nah, not up for the stress. Still a better choice though.

Besides the crafted items are still expensive in my server: last time I checked it was going for 500k EACH. And I need 4 of those for one item! I'm not that rich: my only income is roulettes as a tank!

Ah well, looks like I'll be waiting for other ways to obtain my weapon. I like grinding, but this is pretty long and frustrating. And boring.

I am in the same boat here. 5-6m is a bit much. It shouldn't be an instant reward, but man is it expensive.