Anima Weapons. Putting things into perspective.

[CorbinDallas]

Right, because one person speaks for all of us.

But it's not just one person. It's the majority of the "I am against an Anima nerf" crowd. The loud majority who cry when they realise their special snowflake status is being threatened. Just like the people against the bird whistles being tradeable for 99 totems or whatever. "I got it the hard way, so should you."

There's a lot of salt towards raiders, but god damn do the grind fest casuals cry the loudest.

[AngelicSence]

This right here is the messed up mentality people have.

Well I cleared multiple levels of Coil and over half of Gordias Savage. They should revert the nerfs on them, remove unsync as an option for Coil. I did the hard work of learning difficult fights and clearing them to see the story, so should you. But no, you'd cry that it's unfair that you're locked out of glamour, etc..

It's kinda natural I think (I don't call it messed up). I don't blame those people.. Well, I actually agree with both players. Relic shouldn't be this extremely hard, so in future, it doesn't get nerfed. But I also understand why SE made it this way.. Many ppl want to be special in MMO, they work extremely hard in equal environment, so that they can be respected. Nerf on relics will ruin that feeling.

[ScarletDawn]

But it's not just one person. It's the majority of the "I am against an Anima nerf" crowd. The loud majority who cry when they realise their special snowflake status is being threatened. Just like the people against the bird whistles being tradeable for 99 totems or whatever. "I got it the hard way, so should you."

There's a lot of salt towards raiders, but god damn do the grind fest casuals cry the loudest.

Yea this is pretty much true, im a Softcore raider but id be happy with nerfs so ppl can enjoy story/farm glam, so why cant the relic hunters be the same?

[Synestra]

Honestly i could easy run Gordias to grind my token.

And i would rather throw tens of millions instead running a gordias, for some players crafting part is easiest one compared to grinding untradeable items. Tho i dont mind the grind as long as i dont need to use DF to do it.

[Whocareswhatmynameis]

But it's not just one person. It's the majority of the "I am against an Anima nerf" crowd. The loud majority who cry when they realise their special snowflake status is being threatened. Just like the people against the bird whistles being tradeable for 99 totems or whatever. "I got it the hard way, so should you."

There's a lot of salt towards raiders, but god damn do the grind fest casuals cry the loudest.

At some point you have to reward people for playing the game... If you just log in and have all the rewards handed to you by week 2, why would anyone log in during week 3? The whole point of the relic is to entice people to play more, or to entice them to do things that they normally wouldn't do like crafting or beast tribe quests.. If you make the relic where you don't need to craft anything, and make it where you only need 5 of each token. Then you uncap all the tomestone and double the acquisition rate of tomestone, like a lot of people want, then where is the incentive to keep logging in after week 4 of every patch?

If you don't want to raid, that's on you. If you don't want to craft, or pvp, or do relic, that's also on you.. But that doesn't somehow make people entitled to get the rewards for the content they don't want to participate in just because it came out one or two patches ago...

[ScarletDawn]

And i would rather throw tens of millions instead running a gordias, for some players crafting part is easiest one compared to grinding untradeable items. Tho i dont mind the grind as long as i dont need to use DF to do it.

So why not have an 1 or the other, then both...

[ScarletDawn]

At some point you have to reward people for playing the game... If you just log in and have all the rewards handed to you by week 2, why would anyone log in during week 3? The whole point of the relic is to entice people to play more, or to entice them to do things that they normally wouldn't do like crafting or beast tribe quests.. If you make the relic where you don't need to craft anything, and make it where you only need 5 of each token, then where is the incentive to keep logging in after week 4 of every patch?

Hardly anyone would do the relic, if you have the stats of relic vs Eso wep then im sure the relic is very low.

[Synestra]

So why not have an 1 or the other, then both...

Good question, i would happily throw 500k-1mil for each UI items(Oils now)instead doing anything DF related. Sadly they wont do it because these forums would be filled with "P2W relic step" topics.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

I wonder how people are willfully forgetting that the 2.0 relics were treated as a joke by most of the players until Zeta and then people cried foul over how it made Dreadwyrm weapons useless. History repeats and it's going to be sweet for the 3.0 relics. Go ahead and laugh now at how they're garbage or are only for glamours. I'll be ready.

[Cherie]

Let that sink in for a while.

Why, what does it want now?

Btw, those crafted items are roughly the same price on my server too. Since when is 1mil all that much anymore? If you have a botanist for instance, you can go gather camphorwood branches for about 45min (or less), sell them and have probably 2 mil. I know not everyone has botanist but that is just like one thing I thought of off top of my head. It's not like they are 1 mil because crafters are jerks (which might be true, I'm a crafter and we can be jerks, but the materials are from diadem and who wants to go there and they can be expensive).

I'm sure others pointed out but the gobdip only came out as a option to get recently and if you did the relic quest back when the majority of people did it there wasn't another i210 weapon to get yet (easily). I know it doesn't make a whole lot of sense now but when the basic version of the weapon was "cutting edge" it was a fairly good deal. Now you can make it i230 so it's not like you are keeping it i210 for all that long so.

I know grinding eso is not anything anyone cares to do normally. But if they make the process any easier, the relics are going to be 12 mgp off a vendor in gold saucer. I don't think we are owed the weapon or some such. As it is a game and it's something I don't have to have to play it, I felt no need for it to be handed to me. But take with a grain of salt. I know people like to talk about this topic.