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  1. #181
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    gzuscry's Avatar
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    Asuka Kusanagi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    1. ... Chances are that cash shop items actually sell poorly in Japan...
    If anything, but that. JP/KOR/CN in those countries cashshops of any game are huge cashcows. In fact i think, if it were not for non jp players, p2win on small scale and even more heavy grind would already be in the game as distant past. Japanese may tell how they are all about working together but one thing is for sure they will pay premium in no time if that will somehow make small distinguishes noticable, Koreans are even worse offenders. The need to feel somehow superior by spending money as type of investement for all the premium goods/services that entail this investment is much more ingrained in their culture. If their "keigo" system is any indication, then you should understand that.
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  2. #182
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    Quote Originally Posted by Korbash View Post
    Oh that is really pretty. I'd love that for my male Elezen. I hope we get it in the game or Mogstation. There is no Seven Eleven in the Province of Quebec in Canada. I spent a month in Calgary (Alberta) drinking Slurpee everyday, and sometimes many times a day, Slurpee was so good I was hooked on it, and I've been Slurpee deprived since I left and came back home, since there is no Seven Eleven here .
    Yeah live in alberta I am not sure you can't find a 7-11 anywhere there is 10,000 people or more and usually that is multiple 7-11s. The idea that certain states don't have 7-11 is foreign to me. I get Quebec they probably don't want to deal with the language laws.

    To the other people. They have definitely not had the greatest track record on following up on content that has made players angry. I could easily necro probably 100s of pages of housing failures, pvp failures, and add ons. All stuff that players have screamed or been denied after being told it would exist. Is any of it fundamental to your enjoyment of the game, maybe not but who are you to judge what people deem important/special to their game play.
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  3. #183
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    Zantitrach's Avatar
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    Zantitrach Aergahrsyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    I doubt the item code will be region locked
    I see only 2 requirements

    1. Be in japan
    2. Visit a 7-Eleven branch
    They clarified this issue already. Its only redeemable on JP accounts.

    That said, they WILL bring other regions the glamour/fat chocobo. They just have to figure out the BEST way. Yes, you will pay for it with $$ like JP. No it won't be an in-game reward as that is HIGHLY unfair.

    TL;DR: We're getting them, chill. It will still cost $$, stop asking for it for free.
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  4. #184
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    Quote Originally Posted by gzuscry View Post
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    I can't speak for Koreans, but Chinese players have it the worst, they even have it terribly with FFXIV. The ability to buy Crafters AF2 without working for it, the ability to be boosted to level 50 and skip everything before 3.0 (won't let me link this one for some odd reason), the ability to buy level boosts for individual classes, and so on. Their cash shop is certainly worse than ours, and while it's not really "pay to win" as most Chinese MMORPGs are, it's certainly a poorly done system.

    On the plus side, they can individually buy the merchandise minions.
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  5. #185
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    UltimateAoe2's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colorful View Post
    I can't speak for Koreans, but Chinese players have it the worst, they even have it terribly with FFXIV. The ability to buy Crafters AF2 without working for it, the ability to be boosted to level 50 and skip everything before 3.0 (won't let me link this one for some odd reason), the ability to buy level boosts for individual classes, and so on. Their cash shop is certainly worse than ours, and while it's not really "pay to win" as most Chinese MMORPGs are, it's certainly a poorly done system.

    On the plus side, they can individually buy the merchandise minions.
    Looks like WoW with the 1-50 buying thing...

    I'll admit, if I wanted more than 1 character I probably would do that. But meh....I don't know. That's such a poor model to be doing..
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  6. #186
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    Iromi's Avatar
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    Tilla Eversong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colorful View Post
    I can't speak for Koreans, but Chinese players have it the worst, they even have it terribly with FFXIV. The ability to buy Crafters AF2 without working for it, the ability to be boosted to level 50 and skip everything before 3.0 (won't let me link this one for some odd reason), the ability to buy level boosts for individual classes, and so on. Their cash shop is certainly worse than ours, and while it's not really "pay to win" as most Chinese MMORPGs are, it's certainly a poorly done system.

    On the plus side, they can individually buy the merchandise minions.
    Well...that's terrifying. I hope they never do that over here lol.
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  7. #187
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    Adire's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iromi View Post
    Well...that's terrifying. I hope they never do that over here lol.
    If customers will accept it here, you can imagine it will come here. I think the west is slowly moving in that direction unfortunately.

    Can't blame SE for it if it comes here though since companies provide what customers will pay for.
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  8. #188
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    Zantitrach Aergahrsyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colorful View Post
    The ability to buy Crafters AF2 without working for it,
    That is insane right there. Geezuz. I think I converted that right to $5? Wow.

    Level buying in WoW made sense to me, for alts. They don't have the same system we do for all your jobs one one class for instance.

  9. #189
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    Gralna's Avatar
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    Gralya Arodica
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colorful View Post
    I can't speak for Koreans, but Chinese players have it the worst, they even have it terribly with FFXIV. The ability to buy Crafters AF2 without working for it, the ability to be boosted to level 50 and skip everything before 3.0 (won't let me link this one for some odd reason), the ability to buy level boosts for individual classes, and so on. Their cash shop is certainly worse than ours, and while it's not really "pay to win" as most Chinese MMORPGs are, it's certainly a poorly done system.

    On the plus side, they can individually buy the merchandise minions.
    That's because in China, most kids are afraid to spend too much time playing games, because since 2008, Internet Addiction has been classified as a mental disorder there. Many kids get sent, by their parents, to government run Internet Addiction Rehab centers run by the Government, but they are actually closer to juvenile detention centers. There are multiple cases of kids getting beaten to death at them by their instructors. So yea, a lot of Chinese players would prefer to skip all the fluff asap and get to the endgame.
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  10. #190
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    Charlotte Elise
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gralna View Post
    That's because in China, most kids are afraid to spend too much time playing games, because since 2008, Internet Addiction has been classified as a mental disorder there. Many kids get sent, by their parents, to government run Internet Addiction Rehab centers run by the Government, but they are actually closer to juvenile detention centers. There are multiple cases of kids getting beaten to death at them by their instructors. So yea, a lot of Chinese players would prefer to skip all the fluff asap and get to the endgame.
    Wow, is this... wow. I understand why parents might be worried as people have a tendency to die playing video games in Asian countries, but to send them to rehab centres, let alone extremely strict rehab centres? I'd guess the parents are too busy to properly monitor their children and setup parental settings on their router? They've certainly been a huge help for me, something they definitely need to look into.

    With all that in mind, I don't believe it excuses Chinese companies from ripping off their customers, especially when it comes to a subscription based game you pay hourly for. I hear the Chinese costume goes for $20 and I remember people complaining about the prices of sets like the Minfilia one, I know the "It could always be worse" argument is an awful one to make, but I'm glad we're not stuck with that payment model.
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