Addon discussion

[Amiaze]

imo id rather the game not get addons. Id rather not be banned or kicked from a group just because im not running a specific addon.

I don't think this will happen. And if it does, it won't be a common occurrence. I'm on PS4 and have been on different servers and never seen a group exclude Playstation players. They're there, yes, but in small numbers. I believe the same will be true of those who use add-ons. A very large percentage of FFXIV's community is on PS3 or PS4 and wouldn't be able to run them. You'd quickly find that recruiting players that meet such a specific requirement would be so exclusionary that it might not benefit you at all, especially in situations where you lack a healer or tank for a static run. That's a comparatively small pool of people to pick from as it is. Requiring that they be on PC and have a specific add-on would only make it smaller.

[Raevynne]

I think youre missing my point. Im not talking about the game now with extreme modes and people being kicked for not doing the job right. Im talking about what this game could become if it becomes ruled by addons. People who dont run any I hope wont be segregated because the people who dont run addons can do just as good a job as those that do use addons.

This game is fine the way it is without addons, that was my opinion and I hope that it stays that way because I detest addons. But again thats my opinion, its not shared by everyone which i respect.

[Amiaze]

I think youre missing my point...

I didn't miss anything at all. I would speaking hypothetically, and comparing what the game would be like with add-ons to the current attitude. I don't think the segregation would be any worse than it currently is due to the huge amount of people that would be unable to use said add-ons (namely, Playstation users). Because of that, any user that does not want to enable the add-ons wouldn't have much difficulty finding parties that would suit them. Besides, I would assume that a good number people that run content together to do with the same people (except for DF dungeons and roulette), and those groups are fairly solidified already.

As for enabling add-ons, so long as they don't give huge advantages for the people that use them, I wouldn't mind them being there. I can't use them, but may as well let the PC users have them.

[Shebah]

People who dont run any I hope wont be segregated because the people who dont run addons can do just as good a job as those that do use addons.

I don't think that would happen, quite honestly. In WoW, no one gets kicked from LFR for not having DBM, and I can't really think of any addon FF would need that would end up becoming a requirement like many of the things WoW raiding guilds require. I mean, boss abilities are pretty straightforward and red zones show when something is about to strike, so that cuts out DBM. Nobody really requires DPS meters, I don't see a necessity for a threat warning addon except for tanks themselves, and healing assistance addons aren't really needed either.

WoW had that "You need [x] addon before you can raid with us" bump because addons became a crutch out of necessity. The way FF's boss fights are done is very different and doesn't call for anything like that.

[Shebah]

And sorry for double post (stupid character limit) but I'd like to re-iterate a previous post. People seem to be focusing on combat addons in this thread and immediately casting out addons based on that alone.

There's so many more things that can be done with addons, like UI improvements, RP profiles, map waypoints for logs, quest completion tracker, gear set drop locations, a better dressing room, etc.

[Theodric]

People are fooling themselves if they honestly believe that the inclusion of stuff like DPS meters won't end badly. The community as a whole is already obsessed with doing things in as 'efficient' a manner as possible, thus why many people freak out in a dungeon if they're stuck with new players who can't push for a speed run. Yes, they'd 'technically' be optional - but MMO's such as WoW show that many people push for addons to be mandatory rather than optional.

[Colorful]

And sorry for double post (stupid character limit) but I'd like to re-iterate a previous post. People seem to be focusing on combat addons in this thread and immediately casting out addons based on that alone.

There's so many more things that can be done with addons, like UI improvements, RP profiles, map waypoints for logs, quest completion tracker, gear set drop locations, a better dressing room, etc.

There are even addons to play games inside your games.

[KaijinRhada]

UI improvements

The other thing I would really love to have. The UI in this game with the lack of ability to fine tune it is a point of anger for me.

Also you can get around the character limit by editing your post.

[RyuSaarva]

why would you ever want to open a new window and play other games?

[Seiver]

i just want my 1.x UI back the side menu can go away but i miss the feel of the old UI