Petition Against Ifrit Weapon Designs

[Isaaru]

Let's put it this way. Evidently this "cartoonish" weaponry is what attracts players. SE needs to attract players to keep this game running, not please the loud minority that makes a petition thread for every "bad" idea that SE has.

The weapons look FF, they're just a bit wide. So they look cheaper and therefore, pseudo-Korean.

If someone is allowed to criticize the game, others are allowed to criticize a criticism, no?

[Dargoth_Draconia]

It really is a shame that you people do not understand how your derogatory post make you look far worse than the people you insult. Just because people don't think the design of these weapons fit in this games Artist style doesn't mean you have to attack them like petulant children. Honestly, how hard is it to say, "I like them, they look fine to me." I personally think they are simply ugly and tacky. The fact that they don't fit within the world matters a lot less than that to me.

Lol. Makes me look like your God. Now worship me

[Zottan]

give that magnetic knuckles please!

[Zoltan]

Let's put it this way. Evidently this "cartoonish" weaponry is what attracts players. SE needs to attract players to keep this game running, not please the loud minority that makes a petition thread for every "bad" idea that SE has.

The weapons look FF, they're just a bit wide. So they look cheaper and therefore, pseudo-Korean.

If someone is allowed to criticize the game, others are allowed to criticize a criticism, no?

The problem is that there are all these little trolls who love to argue with everyone just to make their e-peen larger or post one line clomplaints that people are whining.

No one respects anyone else's opinion.

If someone criticizes something then you can disagree. To criticize the criticism is like an Ad Hominem attack:

An Ad Hominem is a general category of fallacies in which a claim or argument is rejected on the basis of some irrelevant fact about the author of or the person presenting the claim or argument. Typically, this fallacy involves two steps. First, an attack against the character of person making the claim, her circumstances, or her actions is made (or the character, circumstances, or actions of the person reporting the claim). Second, this attack is taken to be evidence against the claim or argument the person in question is making (or presenting). This type of "argument" has the following form:


Person A makes claim X.
Person B makes an attack on person A.
Therefore A's claim is false.
The reason why an Ad Hominem (of any kind) is a fallacy is that the character, circumstances, or actions of a person do not (in most cases) have a bearing on the truth or falsity of the claim being made (or the quality of the argument being made).

Example of Ad Hominem

Bill: "I believe that abortion is morally wrong."
Dave: "Of course you would say that, you're a priest."
Bill: "What about the arguments I gave to support my position?"
Dave: "Those don't count. Like I said, you're a priest, so you have to say that abortion is wrong. Further, you are just a lackey to the Pope, so I can't believe what you say."


http://www.nizkor.org/features/falla...d-hominem.html

Therefore, saying that an OP is a whiner or whining is Ad Hominem.

[Isaaru]

oh ok, well SE isn't going to look at this petition and change their mind. Just like every single other petition.

[Kiote]

Let's put it this way. Evidently this "cartoonish" weaponry is what attracts players. SE needs to attract players to keep this game running, not please the loud minority that makes a petition thread for every "bad" idea that SE has.

The weapons look FF, they're just a bit wide. So they look cheaper and therefore, pseudo-Korean.

If someone is allowed to criticize the game, others are allowed to criticize a criticism, no?

Considering the biggest compliment this game got by anyone was how nice everything looks, I don't think it's the weapons keeping people away. Most people who don't like this game never get past level 10 because they can't figure out how to play. SE doesn't need to change it's Artistic vision for the game, they need to add tutorials like the ones coming in this patch if they want players.

[Keith_Dragoon]

While they may abit on the large side I do not feel the overall style of the weapons stray away from the FF feel. In XI weapons of varying styles have found their way into the hands of players. This Dark Knight Scythe almost looks as it belong among these weapons from the Ifrit Battle.

As for the glow it was "voted" on and approved months ago that we'd see glowing weapons in the future of this game. So aside from a resizing of the weapons I see nothing really wrong with them.

[Zoltan]

That is a falacious argument called Irrelevant Conclusion.

[Isaaru]

Considering the biggest compliment this game got by anyone was how nice everything looks, I don't think it's the weapons keeping people away. Most people who don't like this game never get past level 10 because they can't figure out how to play. SE doesn't need to change it's Artistic vision for the game, they need to add tutorials like the ones coming in this patch if they want players.

Actually there have been quite a bit of complaints on bland weapon design.

[Kiote]

Actually there have been quite a bit of complaints on bland weapon design.

The complaints have been that they were reskinning the same designs, not that the designs were bad. people generally approve of the look of this game and would like to keep things in line with it. They want new weapon and armour models not a massive change in the direction of the games art.