We still care deeply about the Shape of our characters..[Dev Request]

[Skivvy]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post1376748

Post 164

Easy as a Google search

Hey smart ass, I beat you myself Piss off now if you're gonna just be a snark.

[Slappah]

Hey smart ass, I beat you myself Piss off now if you're gonna just be a snark.

I edited before you posted this, just sayin

[Vejjiegirl]

This is more of a topic asking for the lower body to be restored rather than just a "butt thread".
Sure the butt is part of it but there are a lot of weird things that happened when they reduced the lower body of characters from 1.0->2.0

For example when you wear any form of tights in 2.0 the area on the right leg has a broken Mesh, its harder to see the mesh on smaller races but if you use Female Highlander or Roegadyn its much easier to see.
There are also a lot of lower body clipping on Lalafell and Roegadyn Races when you wear skirts or dresses, in most cases your hips start to show outside the outfit when you move/dance etc, I've made bug reports on all these back in 2014 they went into accepted bugs and just kind of died there.

Area In Question

Off Topic:
I notice a few people talking about hairstyles and clothes so i'll talk a little bit about that as well. I made a few threads in the past about Character Customization, it seems in every patch they release Hairstyles... because I assume... hairstyles are big and flashy. However, there are major problems with the character creator and with how fairly distributed the customization parts are for each race.

For example, female elezen has two faces that are identical to each other. It's the same face just with lipstick and different eyelashes/skin-tone shadings.
This is not fair to this race, especially when you have races like Hyur with 5(female)->6(male) different face options to choose from.

Same Nose, Same Jaw, Same Eyes, Same Mouth
Just Change the skin texture, add lipstick and some long eyelashes...

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-Customization

*(Hyur Midlander essentially have more jaw,eyeshapes,eyebrows, nose shapes, and mouth shapes due to have an extra face this is why they are not red below)*


Jaw:
Hyur Midlander = 4
Hyur Highlander = 4
Elezen = 4
Lalafell = 4
Miqo'te = 4
Roegadyn = 3
Au Ra = 3

EyeShape:
Hyur Midlander = 5
Hyur Highlander = 6
Elezen = 6
Lalafell = 6
Miqo'te = 6
Roegadyn = 5
Au Ra = 5

Eyebrows:
Hyur Mildander = 5
Hyur Highlander = 4
Elezen = 5
Lalafell = 5
Miqo'te = 5
Roegadyn = 4
Au Ra = 4

Nose:
Hyur Midlander = 5
Hyur Highlander = 6
Elezen = 6
Lalafell = 6
Miqo'te = 6
Roegadyn = 6
Au Ra = 5

Mouth:
Hyur Midlander = 4
Hyur Highlander = 4
Elezen = 4
Lalafell =4
Miqo'te = 4
Roegadyn = 4
Au Ra = 4

EarShape/TailShape:
Elezen = 4
Lalafell = 4
Miqo'te = 8
Au Ra = 4

*(Miqo'te, Au Ra, Lalalfell, Elezen Only)*

Tattoos/Limbal Ring/Ear Clasps:
Hyur Midlander(Tattoos change with face)= 2
Hyur Highlander(Tattoos change with face) = 2
Elezen = 2
Lalafell = 2
Miqo'te = 2
Au Ra = 2
Roegadyn(Tattoos change with face) = 2

Male Character Creation Options:

Face:
Hyur Midlander = 6
Hyur Highlander = 4
Elezen = 4
Lalafell = 4
Miqo'te = 4
Roegadyn = 4
Au Ra = 4


Jaw:
Hyur Midlander = 4
Hyur Highlander = 4
Elezen = 4
Lalafell = 4
Miqo'te = 4
Roegadyn = 3
Au Ra = 4

EyeShape:
Hyur Midlander = 6
Hyur Highlander = 6
Elezen = 6
Lalafell = 6
Miqo'te = 6
Roegadyn = 5
Au Ra = 6

Eyebrows:
Hyur Mildander = 6
Hyur Highlander = 4
Elezen = 6
Lalafell = 6
Miqo'te = 5
Roegadyn = 4
Au Ra = 6

Nose:
Hyur Midlander = 6
Hyur Highlander = 6
Elezen = 6
Lalafell = 6
Miqo'te = 6
Roegadyn = 6
Au Ra = 6

Mouth:
Hyur Midlander = 4
Hyur Highlander = 4
Elezen = 4
Lalafell = 4
Miqo'te = 4
Roegadyn = 4
Au Ra = 4

EarShape/TailShape:
Elezen = 4
Lalafell = 4
Miqo'te = 8
Au Ra = 4

*(Miqo'te, Au Ra, Lalalfell, Elezen Only)*

Tattoos/Limbal Ring/Ear Clasps:
Hyur Midlander(Tattoos change with face)= 2
Hyur Highlander(Tattoos change with face) = 2
Elezen = 2
Lalafell = 2
Miqo'te = 2
Au Ra = 2
Roegadyn(Tattoos change with face) = 2

A lot of races need a lot more eye shapes/noses or even new face shapes. I doubt there are any PS3 Limitations because they always release new hairstyles in every major patch. Hairstyles use up resources more than.. a nose or eyeshape? (who knows)

You guys can moan and sigh "oh not another butt thread" but the problem persists that FFXIV's Character customization/Character Models are unnatural and Cheaply made.
They can give us 1000 more outfits or 100 more hairstyles but In my opinion this is just throwing a band-aid over a large wound.

This is just my opinion but I would much rather they give Quality rather than Quanity

[Alahra]

I'd love to have the old models back. It's really bothers me that my tail clips through a piece of gear specifically designed for my race simply because they flattened the back half of the waist/hips, changing the angle at which the tail descends (which is the result of spine modifications I think, but I'm not sure exactly how the frame works). In a game from a developer that generally prides itself on aesthetics (and a game that I play in part because of that pride for aesthetics), it feels really out of place.

And yes, the weird hip/thigh clipping mentioned above happens on numerous races. For miqo'te, it's most noticeable when doing the basic /sit animation.

At the very least, some sort of slider that would allow us to choose between the current waists and the old ones would be greatly appreciated.

[Nektulos-Tuor]

Need bigger butts...

[WinterLuna]

I understand people have good intentions but it kind of annoys me a little when people just relate these kind of threads to having a bugger butt and making it much more trivial than it is.

There is absolutely no diversity on body shapes other than the breast slider for most races. The muscle slider isn't even available to most, and even that is barely noticeable. Height is a given. It doesn't help that we are extremely limited with facial options and are forced to have certain markings/colours/horns based on race and gender. For a game this old, the amount of customisation options is getting to be slightly annoying.

Also, I understand this is a Japanese game, and they may not want to implement certain customisation for certain reasons (body hair and weight sliders come to mind) but this is absolutely no excuse for how limited we are.

[LadyVal]

Also, I understand this is a Japanese game, and they may not want to implement certain customisation for certain reasons (body hair and weight sliders come to mind) but this is absolutely no excuse for how limited we are.

I think this is a big factor in explaining why our customization seems so limited. Japan specifically has very little bio-diversity among their population, so being slender and having black hair and almond-shaped eyes is the norm, and by a large margin. Living in any European or North American country especially, seeing people of all shapes and sizes, colors and styles, is the norm. Japan, as a general culture, tends to stress more on uniformity and not standing out too much. So it's very possibly that this just isn't important to the developers because to them, they may think that compared to their home culture, we have a ton of options. Whereas in western culture, the options we have aren't very diverse at all, given what we have all grown up around.

[Vejjiegirl]

Click the image to zoom in, things look normal until you view your characters from the side and then you can see the problem.



*Note the problem actually goes away if you wear any Skirt or Long Dress, anything else and you get a flat lower body. This however does not apply to the crafting skirts*

[karateorangutang]

For me it's a bit of an immersion problem. Even the most studious of the jobs (Astrologian and Scholar) are undeniably physically fit in this game. The WoL, no matter the class, is constantly doing physical feats that would rival anyone that is of a fitness mindset. Now I suppose that those feats could be contrived of aetheric energy or some other magical means, but the fact remains that our characters are trim and lean (this includes male roegaydn as they have an undeniably low body fat %), so it makes sense that our musculature would support it.

Now, I'm not asking for a server full of hulks, Arnolds, and body builders running around. However, when someone is physically strong and fit there are body proportions that go with that. Larger and lifted gluteus, larger shoulders, defined quadriceps and calves. These are basic building blocks of strength and endurance that are simply not shown in games.... at all.

It's sad to see.

I wonder if it's a cultural thing though. Watching anime and other Japanese media casts characters with muscular structures into very stereotyped roles, so it is probably the likely thing that affects the character body structure that is in the game. Most main characters, regardless of strength, have thin and fashion model type builds (not fitness model they are different).

[NessaWyvern]

Freaking QFT.

It's just a seamless transition from back to leg down there.
No butts at all.
it's sad, and kind of gross.

:| I have this butt irl. Ima go cry in a corner now.