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    Quote Originally Posted by Enthy View Post
    I really do hope they fix the flat butts on all characters. They said something like they had to give all races the same butt model for gear purposes, why could't they give us all normal sized butts? Did they really think giving everyone a Lalafel butt was going to be OK? O.o gross.

    2.0 (Left wearing subliguar) 1.0 (right wearing bikini)


    I really wonder if they had actually changed the shape of miqo'te at all, or if it was all just in the lighting/game engine of 1.0. Many things looked different only due to the shading effect the game had (or whatever the technical term is, forgive me D: ).

    The picture of the dancing miqo, they all look pretty standard, as does the one just standing on the end. Does anyone have any pictures of them just standing still from the side? The regular shots that show up in these threads are always from creeper angles which will generally make things look a bit different.

    So I tried to get my own. Pardon the funky quality, but it does highlight the fact that angles and lighting can do a number on one's ass.




    looking more flat colored, no cheek shadows, but still not completely flat....




    Ayyyy


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    Welp, after wasting even MORE time....I've come to the conclusion that it was more than likely just the shading from the old engine and miqo'te from 1.0 didn't have magical asses.




    Keep in mind that once again, lighting and other factors (distance to camera, exact angles, miqo'te size (I did not make mine petite!) will come into play here and it is impossible to compare 1.0 and ARR in a perfect way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
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    Here's the most common image I've seen for it when it was a "big" story on gaming sites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colorful View Post
    Here's the most common image I've seen for it when it was a "big" story on gaming sites.

    This picture is always touted as "proof" of the drastic difference, but while the poses are similiar, they're not the same distance, not quiiite the same angle, etc. And with our sad little ares, those things DO make a big difference. From my own experiments and searching, I wasn't able to find that big of a difference between the two. I had actually mentioned this picture in my original comment, but it got deleted in all the edits D:

    I could keep posting 1.0 pictures, but I think people already have their minds set one way or the other regarding how much better it was in 1.0


    Nooooow with all that said, I would absolutely LOVE to have sliders. That first side shot of my miqo is disgusting. lol. They do need some help, but I just don't see them adding the option. Fingers crossed I'm wrong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    This picture is always touted as "proof" of the drastic difference, but while the poses are similiar, they're not the same distance, not quiiite the same angle, etc. And with our sad little ares, those things DO make a big difference. From my own experiments and searching, I wasn't able to find that big of a difference between the two. I had actually mentioned this picture in my original comment, but it got deleted in all the edits D:

    I could keep posting 1.0 pictures, but I think people already have their minds set one way or the other regarding how much better it was in 1.0


    Nooooow with all that said, I would absolutely LOVE to have sliders. That first side shot of my miqo is disgusting. lol. They do need some help, but I just don't see them adding the option. Fingers crossed I'm wrong
    I looked for more pictures but surprisingly enough, there were few of the player race's rears from my quick Google search (I guess I'll be able to see for myself if this is ever finished and made public). The posture definitely plays a part though, as seen with the Au Ra and their rear looking a little less flat. I do wish we had more natural /cposes, and ones that were permanent rather than being something your character switches to after a few seconds, but that's a different complaint. The characters are definitely flat though, along with male player characters having very minimal bulge, but that just might bump up the age rating on some of the larger races. More sliders can never hurt though, as long as it doesn't go back to 0% after equipping any piece of gear, or varying incredibly wildly similar to the bust slider.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
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    It's not some myth..it wasn't the shading. It wasn't the lighting. It wasn't the angles.

    The devs have flat out said on the record they reduced them for the new engine
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slappah View Post
    It's not some myth..it wasn't the shading. It wasn't the lighting. It wasn't the angles.

    The devs have flat out said on the record they reduced them for the new engine
    I'm not above saying I'm wrong, but I do like a little proof.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...pe_of_miqotes/ Actually found this myself. So there was a slight change to a silhouette it seems. Still not as massive as people make it out to be. :P

    But yes, ALL Of those things I mentioned before still make a huge difference in how things appear. If you looked at my side by side pictures, the difference is negligible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    I'm not above saying I'm wrong, but I do like a little proof.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...pe_of_miqotes/ Actually found this myself. So there was a slight change to a silhouette it seems. Still not as massive as people make it out to be. :P

    But yes, ALL Of those things I mentioned before still make a huge difference in how things appear. If you looked at my side by side pictures, the difference is negligible.
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post1376748

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    Easy as a Google search

    Beat me to it apparently
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    I don't want to be the one to give the bad news, but after all this time and seeing how a dev already gave an answer before, I doubt they will do anything about it now seeing that if they did make visual adjustments, the amount of man power and editing for all existing gear would be a tremendous load on them that could be placed elsewhere in more important areas. But I know this is important to some of you people here, but just stating a view from another perspective.
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    Screw this talk over butts, a lot of people in real life have their butts looking like this. I want another race and preferably one with more sexual dismorphia, like short guys to tall girls. That would be interesting, at least for me.
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    I like helping people with their Job ideas, it's fun to help them visuallize and create the job they'd like to play most. Plus I make my own too, I'll post them eventually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eloah View Post
    Screw this talk over butts, a lot of people in real life have their butts looking like this. I want another race and preferably one with more sexual dismorphia, like short guys to tall girls. That would be interesting, at least for me.
    I personally can't say I've met someone who's butt is non-existent, but maybe I just haven't met enough people. As for sexual dimorphism, don't we already have this with the Au Ra? Of course it's the opposite case where the men are far larger than women, but hey it's there. I'd rather see more options for existing races myself, FFXIV is really lacking in the character customization section (apart from hairstyles), makes up for it glamour wise though.
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