We still care deeply about the Shape of our characters..[Dev Request]

[Nektulos-Tuor]

Need bigger butts...

[WinterLuna]

I understand people have good intentions but it kind of annoys me a little when people just relate these kind of threads to having a bugger butt and making it much more trivial than it is.

There is absolutely no diversity on body shapes other than the breast slider for most races. The muscle slider isn't even available to most, and even that is barely noticeable. Height is a given. It doesn't help that we are extremely limited with facial options and are forced to have certain markings/colours/horns based on race and gender. For a game this old, the amount of customisation options is getting to be slightly annoying.

Also, I understand this is a Japanese game, and they may not want to implement certain customisation for certain reasons (body hair and weight sliders come to mind) but this is absolutely no excuse for how limited we are.

[LadyVal]

Also, I understand this is a Japanese game, and they may not want to implement certain customisation for certain reasons (body hair and weight sliders come to mind) but this is absolutely no excuse for how limited we are.

I think this is a big factor in explaining why our customization seems so limited. Japan specifically has very little bio-diversity among their population, so being slender and having black hair and almond-shaped eyes is the norm, and by a large margin. Living in any European or North American country especially, seeing people of all shapes and sizes, colors and styles, is the norm. Japan, as a general culture, tends to stress more on uniformity and not standing out too much. So it's very possibly that this just isn't important to the developers because to them, they may think that compared to their home culture, we have a ton of options. Whereas in western culture, the options we have aren't very diverse at all, given what we have all grown up around.

[Vejjiegirl]

Click the image to zoom in, things look normal until you view your characters from the side and then you can see the problem.



*Note the problem actually goes away if you wear any Skirt or Long Dress, anything else and you get a flat lower body. This however does not apply to the crafting skirts*

[karateorangutang]

For me it's a bit of an immersion problem. Even the most studious of the jobs (Astrologian and Scholar) are undeniably physically fit in this game. The WoL, no matter the class, is constantly doing physical feats that would rival anyone that is of a fitness mindset. Now I suppose that those feats could be contrived of aetheric energy or some other magical means, but the fact remains that our characters are trim and lean (this includes male roegaydn as they have an undeniably low body fat %), so it makes sense that our musculature would support it.

Now, I'm not asking for a server full of hulks, Arnolds, and body builders running around. However, when someone is physically strong and fit there are body proportions that go with that. Larger and lifted gluteus, larger shoulders, defined quadriceps and calves. These are basic building blocks of strength and endurance that are simply not shown in games.... at all.

It's sad to see.

I wonder if it's a cultural thing though. Watching anime and other Japanese media casts characters with muscular structures into very stereotyped roles, so it is probably the likely thing that affects the character body structure that is in the game. Most main characters, regardless of strength, have thin and fashion model type builds (not fitness model they are different).

[KeyboardFacerollname]

LONG POST ABOUT MUSCLES THAT I HAD TO CUT OUT BECAUSE OF THE POST SIZE LIMIT

It'd be nice if the muscle slider for females wasn't 0 = smooth and featureless, 100 = slightly toned.

100 should be defined arm and leg muscles and a six pack.

Especially for Roegadyn, who are basically the race of beefcake men and amazonian women.

[karateorangutang]

It'd be nice if the muscle slider for females wasn't 0 = smooth and featureless, 100 = slightly toned.

100 should be defined arm and leg muscles and a six pack.

Especially for Roegadyn, who are basically the race of beefcake men and amazonian women.

Agreed on the sliders. They aren't even really muscle sliders. They are more like... body fat sliders.

True muscle sliders would affect size and definition.

Agreed as well that roegaydn characters (Highlander m/f and Au'ra males as well) should have the choice of musculature... its the defining feature of the race itself. Even on my kitty I would like to be able to increase the musculature on her to fit with the things she is doing.

[Uhm]

I never really saw this as an issue but now that you have brought it to my attention...
I always look at my Au Ra from behind and since he has an hour glass figure I didn't notice but I do think he could do with a but (I typed this wrong but I'll leave it in here) more butt, as for my Miqo'te I still have to test that.

[Riardon]

We keep asking for a "refined" body model for a long time only to be ignored or take the "memory limitations" excuse as an answer. Or the "we have no plans for this at the moment". I would really like to see real butts on all races and genders but they will have rework all the 3D models plus the gear to fit the new body shape. It's clear they do not want to do so. Perhaps in the future they will consider to overhaul the graphics (after dropping the PS3 support I guess) and make use of the higher details 3D models along with the much requested "Higher Res Texture pack" then maybe we can get better 3D models for our characters. I do not think this will happen anytime soon and I'm 100% sure it won't happen before 4.0.
We can only hope for further announcements in the next Fan Festivals where they will tease us with 4.0 but do not hype yourself. We knew DX11 was coming because Yoshi said it a couple of times way before it finally came. We have no hints or even a "promise" that they are working for revised graphics. After 3.0 launched Yoshi said that the graphic quality with further rise in the future but that was all. Whatever he meant anyway. We are pretty far from any graphical update (including butts as they are part of the graphics). Despite we are far from any graphical update we have to keep asking so they will know this particular matter is of our interest.

[Ryuukishi]

The flat butts look ridiculous. I agree it needs to be addressed.