Cleric stance needs change just for melding sake as healer

[karateorangutang]

I know I'm late to the party, but comparing healer accuracy to tank accuracy is a little.... off.

Since a tanks main function is to keep a mob on him/her they have to be able to connect with the mob. If a healer misses DPS drops, if a WAR misses butcher's block on an opener then it's going to be dark days for someone.

[Yhisa]

Why not remove all accuracy on all items..... And force dps and tanks to use there materia slots for accuracy instead.. But nah people will flame if this happened because they will have to socket there precious slots with accuracy

Healers is the only job role that cannot get accuracy on gear..... Dps get it easy through gear.... And tanks get it free with tank stance..... So tbh those who against it cleric stance having accuracy needs to face facts

Healers will heal first and DPS is the last priority.... If there is high damage going on healers will not be able to dish out any dps what so ever

So those melds... We stack accuracy....but the fight is heavy on healing... So healers have wasted all there melds on accuracy just to be none effective on a fight which require a lot more healing...thus making our choice in melds useless.....i for one do not want to keep changing melds base around a boss fight...

[Yhisa]

All fights in this game have moments where a healer can add a bit of damage to the boss but for a few seconds, but u change to cleric stance and use Stone III and due to being unlucky for that 15-20secs u miss all of them... So u burned MP just to miss due to nothing else to do because no one is in danger

So then SE decides to make a super healing intense fight in future... But both the Healers stacked accuracy which loses all its benefit because both healers are fulk time healing... Which then forces both healers to remeld there entire gear just for 1 boss fight

At this rate healers be the only job that will require to change melds base on fights... Accuracy due to not much healing required so we use GCD to dps.... Then crit/det/Spd for healing intense fights due to heavy damage... Which screams design flaw with melding for healers

Im pretty sure healers will hate to do this in near future >.> which i can totally foresee happening

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

Why not remove all accuracy on all items..... ..

Because unlike a healer, tanks and DPS have to land hits on the boss in order to perform their main task. Until this gets changed around so that suddenly in order to heal at all, healers need to land hits on the enemies, there's no reason to change cleric stance, because healer DPS is a bonus, not a requirement.

[Yhisa]

Cannot edit due to being on tablet....

Tbh just remake surecast to give accuracy it lasts 10 seconds anyway and it rarely used at all for most casters/healers

Surecast
30 sec recast
Last 10 seconds
Cannot be interupted whist casting
All attacks will land on the target whist active

This be awsome it gives us accuracy and got a cooldown

And before people complain.... Bard/mech/smn/blm got hawks eye so remaking surecast u can remove hawks eye from Blm and smn and allow them to use surecast instead

It just makes sense

[Yhisa]

Because unlike a healer, tanks and DPS have to land hits on the boss in order to perform their main task. Until this gets changed around so that suddenly in order to heal at all, healers need to land hits on the enemies, there's no reason to change cleric stance, because healer DPS is a bonus, not a requirement.

If we go by this logic OT only need to provoke and land a combo to turn into the main tank....so technically OT can just AFK the fight if he/she wanted too and just tank swap when needed.... But nope he can dps all his heart content...

Its the same logic for healers.. Once everyone is healthy and there is no danger we want to dps too... But the damn community is against it because we are healers and not allowed... But the same rule applies to OT... Hes not main tanking so why should he be able to switch to dps mode... When all he needs is provoke/combo to turn into main tank

[Ghishlain]

Cannot edit due to being on tablet....

Tbh just remake surecast to give accuracy it lasts 10 seconds anyway and it rarely used at all for most casters/healers

Surecast
30 sec recast
Last 10 seconds
Cannot be interupted whist casting
All attacks will land on the target whist active

This be awsome it gives us accuracy and got a cooldown

And before people complain.... Bard/mech/smn/blm got hawks eye so remaking surecast u can remove hawks eye from Blm and smn and allow them to use surecast instead

It just makes sense

....you're absolutely terribly mistaken if you think MCH cross class Hawkeye for 100% hit rate. Also, SMN and BLM don't cross class Hawkeye because they'd rather guarantee their damage with 100% hit rate and not rely on a buff to "help them hit".

Your suggestion for Surecast to give 100% hit rate based on the logic that Hawkeye has the same benefit is incredibly faulty.

That or I'm not understanding what you're saying at all.

I'll just requote this from earlier:

You are not a DPS and thus you do not need accuracy to perform your basic role.
You as a player took the optional route to go further, thus requiring you to meld outside of your jobs premier stats.

Does it suck healer's have a crappy hit rate right now? Yes, it does. But we can fix that, if we choose to go that route for our melds. I see nothing wrong with S-E giving us healers the choice of picking how we want to play.

And if S-E decides to implement a fight so healing intensive that we can't turn on Cleric Stance, that means S-E will basically be giving us 4-6 minute fights to make sure healer's just don't lose all their MP and wipe the raid. Given their desire to make exceptionally long fights, I doubt that's going to happen any time soon.

[Yhisa]

How many times... Have u attempted bosses and only need a 1-2% to kill it.... Well guess what that 1-2% would of been a kill if cleric stance had accuracy on it ... But due to how healers work now all those misses and wasting MP trying to help... Just to wipe a 1-2%...there been times where iv been alive with OT with 2% left and me switching to dps just to miss ALOT ... Which then enrage kill us.....

Everyone have been through this at some point or requite everyone to burn boss before it enrage this includes healers too... But as healer its miss miss miss hit miss hit hit miss....like cmon

In this forum i want everyone to do sephirot ex as a healer... And go dps mode on colors with buffs on, as SCH/AST we lucky dots always hits... But as whm damn i feel sorry for u...

[Yhisa]

....you're absolutely terribly mistaken if you think MCH cross class Hawkeye for 100% hit rate. Also, SMN and BLM don't cross class Hawkeye because they'd rather guarantee their damage with 100% hit rate and not rely on a buff to "help them hit"..

Re read what i put... I did not say BLM and SMN takes it for cross skill.. I said they just have it

Also yes... Healers have a choice between either being supportive with dps/healing or being pure healer

So what about tanks? Or dps? Or off tanks? Where are there choices for playstyle these dont require accuracy since tanks got it as a buff and dps get it on gear already!

Yet healers are penalise to meld either accuracy..... Or crit/det/spd

Tbh remove accuracy on Off Tanks and force them to stack accuracy since dps is not there main role...but players wont allow this

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

Tbh remove accuracy on Off Tanks and force them to stack accuracy since dps is not there main role...but players wont allow this

Tanks can choose to use just enough accuracy to meet the flank accuracy requirement unless there are tank soak mechanics, since the accuracy buff of tank stance should be more than enough to make up for the deficit. Doing this is suboptimal, as it prevents DPS stance main tanking, but it's there. DPS have always used just enough accuracy to meet caps as well.