Region Locking servers to stop RMT?

[Janhyua]

There's also RMT that yank accounts via keylogging when the victim unwittingly uses the URL provided.

Hmm haven gotten any such URL from my email or Ingame so far on tonberry over the course of 2 years so I hardly doubt it

In fact haven gotten any tells since 2.2

[Laraul]

The simplest and quickest solution right now is too make it easier to block and report SPAM RMT messages. A 'Report and Block User' subcommand menu item to quickly add a person to a temporary blacklist as well as report the user would go a long way in making these SPAM tells a lot easier to deal with. Right now, reporting users for RMT spam is cumbersome, and takes to much time to actually bother with doing.

[Laraul]

There's also RMT that yank accounts via keylogging when the victim unwittingly uses the URL provided.

Do you have anyway of backing this up this claim with a credible source? Or are you just trying to spread fear that clicking a URL will infect your computer?

[Khalithar]

Do you have anyway of backing this up this claim with a credible source? Or are you just trying to spread fear that clicking a URL will infect your computer?

On paper? No. However, for what it's worth, there was an old issue of keyloggers and other malicious URL's posted on the wow forums. Players there reported similar keyloggers when the RMT would send emails to players claiming they were blizzard entertainment, players that clicked the links in those URL's would often end up getting a keylogger even if they didn't enter their account information. There have also been reports in other games that a lot of goldfarming is done on hijacked accounts, many of which were from those malicious URL's and websites.

What he's saying is absolutely true and has happened in other games. Besides it's good advice even if it seems like common sense, never ever go to any URL that those RMT send you. Additionally, while false emails from SE seem to not be a thing here, always pay attention to what you click.

[Colorful]

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The URL is usually a direct download to an .exe file masked as an image extension (or anything else really), it's a very common method to steal accounts, especially on Steam. If you have an up to date Windows Defender, say Windows 10 where it forces you keep your definitions up to date it will take care of the problem before you know what hit you, but a surprisingly amount of people either don't update on older Windows because "It's annoying", find a way to disable automatic updates on Win10 because again, "it's annoying". Sometimes they disable Windows Defender without using a viable alternative, because it interferes with an application they use and they won't bother to learn to use the whitelist. The majority of hijacked accounts are due to the carelessness of the players, and that isn't something SE can fix.

[Kosmos992k]

Did a check on the amount of money we are dealing with

And the numbers are shocking

The number of RMT been ban or replaced about 4000+ weekly that's like 20 usd each for each ban they make

They have to buy a new game to come back weekly thats 80,000 usd on average consider 4 weeks a month that's like 320,000 usd

Implementing in-game time sub and allowing it on the market board

What se fear is that the number are not enough to be even worth the implementation

Noting will change even if it implemented because RMT are expert in marketing and will alway undercut the server price acordly

They won't be sendin as much tell to avoid even more losses but they are still there for sure

The numbers are actually really minor when you math it out, the idea that revenue from RMT accounts is somehow significant is laughable. Self serving iDeas about in-game items that provide sub time are not a solution. People buy gil to buy in-game items, not subscription time. Making it possible for players to pay their subscription without using real money helps nothing, and if anything, it provides RMT with a lifeline that costs them nothing.

[Mykll]

I don't agree with region blocking, but, to be fair, to everyone that is saying that the bots can fake IPs with VPN and such, En Masse also has this to say:

http://support.enmasse.com/tera/will...ased-on-region

What About Proxies?

Services that promise to improve your ping and decrease lag may sound promising, but they are frequently used by hackers and criminals who want to remain anonymous. Although we do not block them by default, a proxy or server host will be blocked if it becomes a popular tool for criminal behavior.

So enough bots using the same VPN and such will probably end up getting that VPN blocked for everyone.

[Khalithar]

I don't agree with region blocking, but, to be fair, to everyone that is saying that the bots can fake IPs with VPN and such, En Masse also has this to say:

http://support.enmasse.com/tera/will...ased-on-region

There's that to, so many folks posting "oh they'll just get around it" when the fact is that EME's system (while not perfect) has kept TERA practically RMT free since it came out so long ago, even before it went free to play and started selling sub time, the game still manages to keep nearly every single one of them out. As I said prior, sure you can't keep the RMT out but their presence in TERA has always been near non-existent because of EME's region block/VPN blocks.

You can honestly play for weeks or months even on the low pop and never see an RMT. I never personally said I'm for the region block, but TERA has proven that it can work and be ridiculously effective as well.

[Ilitsa]

Who says Chineses are the only RMT?

ignorant people with "great" ideas.


No. Region locking NEVER helps anything. It's just all around bad and you're looking to split friends for no reason. Yes, the RMT situation sucks, but they need to be addressed directly (somehow, I don't claim to have any ideas here), rather than band-aid fixes being applied.

[Zari]

The numbers are actually really minor when you math it out, the idea that revenue from RMT accounts is somehow significant is laughable. Self serving iDeas about in-game items that provide sub time are not a solution. People buy gil to buy in-game items, not subscription time. Making it possible for players to pay their subscription without using real money helps nothing, and if anything, it provides RMT with a lifeline that costs them nothing.

No no you see that wasn't what they meant with the idea. It isnt just an in-game item you can buy for gil. You HAVE to buy it from other players but they get the sub item that they are selling to you from the mogstation

Essentially, they are paying money to sell something in game for gil while the person who provides said gil gets the sub. It is a solution because if players would legally be able to "buy" gil then RMT would have no market