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  1. #41
    Player
    Avatar de _slowpoke_
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    mai 2015
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    211
    Character
    Yayadon Yadon
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Mage blanc Lv 70
    Fighting spam is an important issue, and isn't just a problem MMO players are faced with. However, when implementing measures against spam, you always have to weigh how much those measures actually hinder spammers versus how much they impact legitimate users. If your measure impacts legitimate users more than it does spammers, it's very likely a very bad idea - and region locking servers would be such a case.

    There's way simpler methods SE could implement to fight RMT spam, and which would not or only very slightly affect legitimate players. One, for example, would be to give players better control over who they want to be able to receive /tells from (currently, we only have the "nuclear option" - disable all tells with /busy). If you could select whether you want to be able to receive only tells from Friends, your FC, people in your party, the Novice Network, and/or from people in Linkshells you are in (ie, a whitelist approach), this would already go a long way to basically remove RMT /tells without impacting legitimate players in a noticeable way.

    As a side note, I don't know how bad it is on other servers, but Cerberus has, at least in my experience, barely any RMT spam currently. It used to be worse, but nowadays, I get an average of one or two RMT tells a week, and usually at like 4 in the morning when the server is pretty deserted anyway. The only other common RMT spam I see is the lone bot who hangs out in front of the MB in Limsa and drops a line in /say every few minutes, which I barely notice anymore.
    (4)

  2. #42
    Player
    Avatar de Felis
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    mars 2011
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    Gridania
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    12 287
    Character
    Skadi Felis
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Pugiliste Lv 70
    Citation Envoyé par Hayward Voir le message
    Well played. Still, there has to be be some solution to this problem. Closing our eyes or going to JP servers isn't going to make it go away.
    Or to Balmung
    Ragnarok is also nice. Only 1 RMT spam each week
    (0)

  3. #43
    Player Avatar de Kosmos992k
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    aot 2013
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    Ul'Dah
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    Character
    Kosmos Meishou
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    Region locking can be defeated by using proxies and VPNs.

    SE would have to invest in technology and people to enforce region locking like that. Having tried to prevent spam on forums as a forum admin and mod, I can tell you, it's not as simple as blocking Chinese and russian domains or IP ranges. Just regular trolls are apt to use proxies and/or VPNs tpo mask their true IP, so any organization already treading the edge of the rules will have no qualms about circumventing regional lockout.

    The way to defeat RMT is to make it so undeesireable that no one buys from them. One way to do this would be tpo be a little more aggressive with player bans, and possibly even create a jail, with the locaktion 'jail' where player characters who's account has been suspended could reside for the duration of their ban. any search for the player yields the result that they are in jail. Who wants that? Already in most countries local newspapers can publish the names of offenders found guilty of traffic offenses, mis-demeanors and felonies. I don't see why we could not do this in-game. It would not take long for the message to get around that people will know who you are when you engage in RMT.
    (3)
    Dernière modification de Kosmos992k, 21/03/2016 à 04h03

  4. #44
    Player
    Avatar de Nektulos-Tuor
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    avril 2015
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    Character
    Thanatos Ravensweald
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Arcaniste Lv 70
    Without a decent way to make money and gil without throwing your face at a wall there will always be easier alternatives.
    (0)

  5. #45
    Player
    Avatar de Roth_Trailfinder
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    aot 2013
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    Character
    Roth Trailfinder
    World
    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Alchimiste Lv 90
    You want to get rid of Gil selling spam?

    Then get SE to produce an in-game item that gives you 30 days of paid game time. Make this item tradable (and thus sell-able), but also make it only initially available through the Mogstation. IE - you want Gil, buy one of these and sell it on the board. Someone prefers to spend Gil instead of cash on their subscription? That person buys your subscription item and uses it.

    Once that is done, market forces (supply and demand for this item) will force the Gil sellers out of FF14 somewhere else. It won't happen overnight, but it will happen.
    (8)

  6. #46
    Player
    Avatar de Bladesinger
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    aot 2013
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    128
    Character
    Halian Sunrider
    World
    Rafflesia
    Main Class
    Gladiateur Lv 100
    Citation Envoyé par Roth_Trailfinder Voir le message
    -SNIP -
    This, on so many levels is the soul cause of why the G spammers're out of business in WoW and no longer fill the chats with their incessant badgering - Yoshi mentioned a while back that he loves the idea but would like some time to monitor WoW to see how successful it is before implemeting here..
    (2)

  7. #47
    Player
    Avatar de Colorful
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    juin 2014
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    Character
    Charlotte Elise
    World
    Kujata
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 70
    Citation Envoyé par Bladesinger Voir le message
    This, on so many levels is the soul cause of why the G spammers're out of business in WoW and no longer fill the chats with their incessant badgering - Yoshi mentioned a while back that he loves the idea but would like some time to monitor WoW to see how successful it is before implemeting here..
    It's been keeping WoW's subscribers numbers afloat during their drought of content and it's kept EVE alive for so long, so it has definitely been successful. The last time it was suggested it got a negative response by the English community though, so who knows? Maybe I'd actually level my crafters if it meant I could pay my subscription that way.
    (1)

  8. #48
    Player
    Avatar de Bladesinger
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    aot 2013
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    Character
    Halian Sunrider
    World
    Rafflesia
    Main Class
    Gladiateur Lv 100
    Citation Envoyé par Colorful Voir le message
    It's been keeping WoW's subscribers numbers afloat during their drought of content and it's kept EVE alive for so long, so it has definitely been successful. The last time it was suggested it got a negative response by the English community though, so who knows? Maybe I'd actually level my crafters if it meant I could pay my subscription that way.
    Amen - hopefully, they're close to something. At the very least, implement an Anon status so we can't be queried in a zone by zone search and harassed in whispers..=\
    (0)

  9. #49
    Player
    Avatar de Nektulos-Tuor
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    avril 2015
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    Character
    Thanatos Ravensweald
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Arcaniste Lv 70
    This can all be solved by doing a few things:

    - Remove the current word filter that makes your emotes some times vanish into the abyss and hurts roleplayers and does nothing to stop RMT.
    - Add the option for people to make custom word filters.
    (0)

  10. #50
    Player
    Avatar de Ashkendor
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    mars 2014
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    4 659
    Character
    Ashkendor Zahirr
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    Citation Envoyé par Nektulos-Tuor Voir le message
    This can all be solved by doing a few things:

    - Remove the current word filter that makes your emotes some times vanish into the abyss and hurts roleplayers and does nothing to stop RMT.
    - Add the option for people to make custom word filters.
    The first option doesn't solve anything to do with RMT. This thread isn't about RP'ers.
    (0)

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