Suggestion: 99 totems = 1 lanner whistle

[Azurymber]

No one is forcing anyone to do anything tho? You freely choose to farm the primal.

Could say that about anything in the game.
I'd understand if it was a rare drop from something dynamic like pvp
But it's a primal. Every fight is a repetitive joke. No strategy is needed. You just repeat the exact same thing 100s of times.

If someone wants a mount, they may have to repeat identical content 100s of time to get it.

Saying "no one's forcing you to do it" is just an excuse for bad game design.

[Andrea]

Could say that about anything in the game.
I'd understand if it was a rare drop from something dynamic like pvp
But it's a primal. Every fight is a repetitive joke. No strategy is needed. You just repeat the exact same thing 100s of times.

If someone wants a mount, they may have to repeat identical content 100s of time to get it.

Saying "no one's forcing you to do it" is just an excuse for bad game design.

Im not saying its bad or not. Im just simply saying you claiming someone is forcing you to do it is incorrect.

[Azurymber]

Im not saying its bad or not. Im just simply saying you claiming someone is forcing you to do it is incorrect.

No one is forcing me to do anything else in the game either.
I'm paying for a subscription to have fun
I don't think a single person out there thinks doing something identical 100+ times is fun
In fact, many people would refuse to get paid to do something as repetitive as primal fights

They are fun when they are a challenge
And can be fun 10, 20, maybe even 30 times

but 100+ times is a waste of anyone's time

And Yes, no one is forcing anyone to do it
But no one is forcing people to stay subbed either
And I know a lot of people quit because of the repetition (just visit gamefaqs boards once in a while)

So it's effect is probably more negative than positive.

[ErzaScar]

remember people. nobody is sayin to remove the bird as a normal drop. just adding alternate means of gettin it it ur RNG and/or rolls realy suck.

its not like everyone had to run ravana 130 times to get hive weapons for every job

[Dorander]

remember people. nobody is sayin to remove the bird as a normal drop. just adding alternate means of gettin it it ur RNG and/or rolls realy suck.

its not like everyone had to run ravana 130 times to get hive weapons for every job

This exactly.

[MrPresident]

No one is forcing me to do anything else in the game either.
I'm paying for a subscription to have fun
I don't think a single person out there thinks doing something identical 100+ times is fun
In fact, many people would refuse to get paid to do something as repetitive as primal fights

They are fun when they are a challenge
And can be fun 10, 20, maybe even 30 times

So, you have an issue with doing it 100 times and say it's only fun for 20 runs, yet you're here advocating for a reward after 99 runs? Your argument doesn't make much sense :/

[Andrea]

No one is forcing me to do anything else in the game either.
I'm paying for a subscription to have fun
I don't think a single person out there thinks doing something identical 100+ times is fun
In fact, many people would refuse to get paid to do something as repetitive as primal fights

They are fun when they are a challenge
And can be fun 10, 20, maybe even 30 times

but 100+ times is a waste of anyone's time

And Yes, no one is forcing anyone to do it
But no one is forcing people to stay subbed either
And I know a lot of people quit because of the repetition (just visit gamefaqs boards once in a while)

So it's effect is probably more negative than positive.

Im confused. You say you pay to have fun, you also say that you are no longer having fun farming for them....so why continue?

[RyuSaarva]

Could say that about anything in the game.
I'd understand if it was a rare drop from something dynamic like pvp
But it's a primal. Every fight is a repetitive joke. No strategy is needed. You just repeat the exact same thing 100s of times.

If someone wants a mount, they may have to repeat identical content 100s of time to get it.

Saying "no one's forcing you to do it" is just an excuse for bad game design.

rare item drops are a good game design not a bad one and I would not call birds even rare since they seem to have about 10% drop rate, if you want more variety do the fight in DF onece in a while or do it with minimum item level, or just cap your lore with it, there really no reason to do expert roulette ever again if you play more than a few hours every week.