Suggestion: 99 totems = 1 lanner whistle

[Divine_Intervention]

I'd go for the token system. I mean, we have an achievement for 200 kills as each tank gets a mount, but i still see a vast majority of tanks without these mounts.

[YGSLlew]

Warning - rant incoming!

Hi SE,

I just want you to know that you have been successful in helping me make the decision to never run Bismarck or Ravana, until these mount drops are increased (however long that may be).

This also means I won't help new players through this content. I assume the point is to get people to run this content to help those new players? Whilst I know me not running this content has little impact on this, I am sure that I am not the only one that has given up.

167 runs of bismarck and only 6 whistles seen. (No whistle seen since run#112)
73 runs of Ravana and only 2 whistles seen

It's just not fun anymore.

/rant

You sir have certainly not farmed cards in Ragnarok Online before

0.01 % Dropchances

[Azurymber]

This would greatly benefit the game

If you force someone to farm a primal 300+ times, with no reward, they will probably get annoyed and go play a more fun game.

Repeating the same content has limits.

[Youkulm]

I would love this, but like a lot of other people have mentioned. I don't think they'll do this.. they'll just increase the drop rate eventually.

[Andrea]

If you force someone to farm a primal 300+ times, with no reward, they will probably get annoyed and go play a more fun game.

No one is forcing anyone to do anything tho? You freely choose to farm the primal.

[Rhodkr]

I would love this to be a thing, I used to farm the ponies back when they were first released religiously. If I was logged in, I was either queued up for an extreme or in a pony farm. Even then, the only pony I had until about 3.1 was the Ifirit Pony! I'm kind of dreading farming for the birds. Just yesterday I saw my first whistle and lost it by 1 (I rolled a 91 against someone's 92). So a token system would be great honestly, it's not like I need the tokens for anything else anyway!

Also, for the person questioning the use of mounts, I do use my Kirin quite a lot as it's the one mount I worked the hardest to get. The issue is, I don't like the ambient sound effect on the wings so I don't use it in heavenward areas much. In heavens ward areas, my go to mount is normally the Pegasus. So.. Two birds-err ponies with one stone?

[Azurymber]

No one is forcing anyone to do anything tho? You freely choose to farm the primal.

Could say that about anything in the game.
I'd understand if it was a rare drop from something dynamic like pvp
But it's a primal. Every fight is a repetitive joke. No strategy is needed. You just repeat the exact same thing 100s of times.

If someone wants a mount, they may have to repeat identical content 100s of time to get it.

Saying "no one's forcing you to do it" is just an excuse for bad game design.

[Andrea]

Could say that about anything in the game.
I'd understand if it was a rare drop from something dynamic like pvp
But it's a primal. Every fight is a repetitive joke. No strategy is needed. You just repeat the exact same thing 100s of times.

If someone wants a mount, they may have to repeat identical content 100s of time to get it.

Saying "no one's forcing you to do it" is just an excuse for bad game design.

Im not saying its bad or not. Im just simply saying you claiming someone is forcing you to do it is incorrect.

[Azurymber]

Im not saying its bad or not. Im just simply saying you claiming someone is forcing you to do it is incorrect.

No one is forcing me to do anything else in the game either.
I'm paying for a subscription to have fun
I don't think a single person out there thinks doing something identical 100+ times is fun
In fact, many people would refuse to get paid to do something as repetitive as primal fights

They are fun when they are a challenge
And can be fun 10, 20, maybe even 30 times

but 100+ times is a waste of anyone's time

And Yes, no one is forcing anyone to do it
But no one is forcing people to stay subbed either
And I know a lot of people quit because of the repetition (just visit gamefaqs boards once in a while)

So it's effect is probably more negative than positive.

[ErzaScar]

I just want you to know that you have been successful in helping me make the decision to never run Bismarck or Ravana, until these mount drops are increased (however long that may be).

You sir have certainly not farmed cards in Ragnarok Online before

certainly never farmd in FF11 either. NMs only spawning once every 24RL hours only have 1% drop rate