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    LeLuke's Avatar
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    Le Luke
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    Mnk super annoying in feast.

    Monks can remove stacks of aetherflow with one llm punch & can spam a silence less than second cd. It's ridiculous!
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    Last edited by LeLuke; 03-18-2016 at 03:15 PM.

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    I'm pretty sure a monk GCD isn't less than 1 second but ok
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    i was exaggerating lol but it is a second or 2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeLuke View Post
    i was exaggerating lol but it is a second or 2.
    I know

    And you're still exaggerating because it isn't 1 second

    And it isn't even 2 seconds

    And yeah monk can be annoying, but it has drawbacks too
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    Cynric Caliburn
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    He's not exaggerating but we can't do both. Can't one ilm punch every 2-4 seconds and Arm of destroyer at the same time cept during PB, and thats about 6-16seconds every 90-180 seconds.

    Using One ilm punch and AoTD like that would be a waste honestly.

    Outside of PB AoTD can only be done every 6 seconds.

    One Ilm Punch however can be done every 4-6 seconds

    GL3 is of course required for the short times. It'd take much longer outside of GL3
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    Last edited by Cynric; 03-19-2016 at 02:02 AM.

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    Koltik Morrel
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    Le Luke, played against you earlier today. Serious talk time: use your Aetherflow stacks more liberally. Don't hold onto them.

    You'd have people on your team at 60% HP or lower and not use your Aetherflow stacks. You'd have stacks for 15 seconds + with people low HP, still trying to adlo them instead of using your stacks, so of course you're going to lose em.

    That said, SCH needs a buff. Do that before doing anything with One Ilm.
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    Pretty much agreed with Koltik. The problem isn't One ilm punch. The problem is scholar.
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    Tonrak Totorak
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    Pretty sure it might get "changed" if enough people complain
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koltik View Post
    Le Luke, played against you earlier today. Serious talk time: use your Aetherflow stacks more liberally. Don't hold onto them.

    You'd have people on your team at 60% HP or lower and not use your Aetherflow stacks. You'd have stacks for 15 seconds + with people low HP, still trying to adlo them instead of using your stacks, so of course you're going to lose em.

    That said, SCH needs a buff. Do that before doing anything with One Ilm.
    thank you for the tips dude, will do. I just came back to the game after a year so its good to be told how to improve. Instead of having toxic teammates lol
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    Aleister Noir
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    You can also cover your stacks with other buffs. Defense is ignored in pvp so Protect actually serves no other purpose than 1-ilm/wither/retrograde fodder, same with fey covenent. If the RDPS is physical obviously focalization isnt gonna do much so then theres that. Failing that you could use emergency tactic or deployment tactics'ed e4e. Im sure theres others (does it remove shadow flare/sacred soil? that would be kinda hilarious). But yeah, Ive only rarely seen it used effectively (lately been seeing it used ineffectively much more tho xD). Anyways if you're up against a monk thats good enough to pull it off you're probably screwed anyways, because lolsch (not really xD but its def an uphill battle. sch got it pretty rough in feast compared to ast/whm).

    A little off topic but Im really curious if anyone knows. When 1-ilm/wither/retro removes a shield effect (galvanize, noct shield, stoneskin) is the damage calculated before or after the shield is removed?
    Like lets say your target somehow has 1 hp and a 10k galvanize on him, will it go:
    Damage -> absorb -> remove galvanize -> target lives
    or
    remove galvanize -> damage -> target dies
    My hunch is that its the former but never really been able to confirm so not sure
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    Last edited by Enlial; 03-20-2016 at 12:10 AM.

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