Is dpsing and a healer becoming the standard norm!

[Odett]

Simple point. Lets say I'm healing, but I'm throwing in Aero and Stone of whichever level is available. I'm using virus, and as needed even sleeping targets. Everynow and again, i get off a couple of Holy's. But, for whatever reason I don't have MP to burn, or there isn't time, and I fall back to straight healing. Who are you to decide if there is plenty of time for me to DPS? White Mage especially needs to manage their MP since they don't have aether-flow, or the ability to drain MP from a target, sure I can pop Shroud, but that's not an instant MP gain. I have to hold MP in reserve for when some happy go lucky DD can't seem to stop standing in stupid, and needs me to save their butt.

That's not the issue at hand, though. No one is arguing that you must DPS all the time, and it's completely normal if you're conservative with your MP management for the first pull of a dungeon just so you can gauge your group, see if the tank uses cooldowns correctly, see if DPS dodge AoE's. Even if you're DPSing a lot, and you feel like you're going to run out of MP, like you've stated, it's the smart move to stop DPSing because MP management is your job. A lot of people, however, pop Shroud way too late, and Assize does instantly restore a portion of your MP, so WHM does not play like it did in ARR. Pop a Divine Seal, Asylum, and Regen, and the passive healing that your tank will be getting will be really nice, freeing you up to do other things. It's also a lot easier as a WHM now to throw out an "oh shit!" heal coming right out of Cleric Stance with the inclusion of Tetragrammaton into their toolkit, which is an OtGCd heal.We're mainly talking about healers who avoid DPSing like it's the plague, to the point where they throw a heal every 10 seconds or heal bomb you every time you fall below 95% HP, and both are extremely lazy and no one should be encouraging that playstyle.

Here's the issue with that logic... Your DPS goes down (yes, for their own silly antics), that means the PARTY's DPS is lowered overall. This means it will take longer regardless to get through a dungeon/raid. A healer or SMN must then swiftcast raise, which then uses up a good chunk of MP. Probably 2 or 3 cure's worth. Those 2 or 3 cures probably could of kept that DPS up in the first place. I'd hardly call that productive. It's one thing to learn a lesson, it's another for the whole group to suffer for that lesson to be learned.

Tough love is sometimes needed. It is not a healer's responsibility to babysit a DPS who doesn't dodge, just like it's not that DPS's right to hold their healer hostage. Some lessons are learned the hard way.

[Malicewolf]

Tough love is sometimes needed. It is not a healer's responsibility to babysit a DPS who doesn't dodge, just like it's not that DPS's right to hold their healer hostage. Some lessons are learned the hard way.

Not saying to babysit, but to simply let them die when you have the opportunity to save fairly easily, it's not worth it overall. MOST AoE's will not 1 shot a DPS. Just put a regen on them, maybe 1 cure if your tank is pretty topped off at the moment. That will save a silly DPS standing in AoE's 90% of the time. If they continue running into AoE's before the regen can bring their hp back up and your tank is needing attention, then yea, sure. But unless your DPS is literally doing pretty much nothing, he will bring in more DPS than you as a healer can do, even if you didn't need to heal. For those who want to "teach a lesson" the only thing you're doing by such is prolonging your torment by making things take longer.