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    Pharazon Kensaki
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    Acc -> Crit -> Det -> SS -> Pie

    Stat weights are nearly irrelevant considering how small a difference you can actually make to your healing through secondaries. Even if you could meld solely for one stat (you can't because of stat caps) and even if you had several gear choices (you don't) weapon damage and mind make up far more of your actual throughput making them the only "real" stats in the game aside from accuracy (assuming your doing content at a level to need to dps and not playing casually). So with that in mind:

    accuracy - until you have enough. This is the only stat that has a meaningful impact on what you can accomplish during a fight and substantially impact the throughput you have, though it is dps.

    crit - shields more often is a better real world result than slightly stronger shields regardless of stat weight which is why you prioritize this over det.

    det - better than SS since you get a sort of double dip usage with the crit shields and you have so few HoT to make stronger via ss.

    ss - more or less useless because you can't put together enough to provide a meaningful benefit in scripted fights with predictable damage.

    pie - if your gear is at level for the content you are doing then you should have enough, even dpsing. If you are running out of mana, look for people making mistakes causing extra healing, and look at your own choices of heals during a fight before adding piety.
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    Anubis Nephthys
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    I imagine they are similar to BLM. You are a turret DPS.
    I would guess SS>crit>det.
    But you might want to prioritize crit because adlo is awesome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pharazon View Post
    accuracy - until you have enough. This is the only stat that has a meaningful impact on what you can accomplish during a fight and substantially impact the throughput you have, though it is dps.

    crit - shields more often is a better real world result than slightly stronger shields regardless of stat weight which is why you prioritize this over det.

    det - better than SS since you get a sort of double dip usage with the crit shields and you have so few HoT to make stronger via ss.

    ss - more or less useless because you can't put together enough to provide a meaningful benefit in scripted fights with predictable damage.
    You're only really taking healing into account. Most of the time, a SCH is dpsing a lot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anubis_Nephthys View Post
    You're only really taking healing into account. Most of the time, a SCH is dpsing a lot.
    Doesn't change much. By the time you invest the slots you need to meld accuracy the amount you can invest in the other stats is very minimal and I would say that by once you weigh the healing and dps benefit of crit versus det that crit is still the better stat in real world performance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pharazon View Post
    Doesn't change much. By the time you invest the slots you need to meld accuracy the amount you can invest in the other stats is very minimal and I would say that by once you weigh the healing and dps benefit of crit versus det that crit is still the better stat in real world performance.
    From what I've mainly heard from the high end raiding community they get some PIE to make sure they can keep shields up for the difficult times, but after that it's a question of more dps over the whole fight (det) or bursty damage (crit) and it sounds like det is being leaned towards a little more.
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    Krystalan Deathgiver
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    Scholar Lv 80
    I'm honestly confused why you even started this thread. If you're just going ignore what almost everyone is pointing out, why would you ask the question in the first place.
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    P'lha Tahl
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    Quote Originally Posted by KopeAcetic View Post
    From what I've mainly heard from the high end raiding community they get some PIE to make sure they can keep shields up for the difficult times, but after that it's a question of more dps over the whole fight (det) or bursty damage (crit) and it sounds like det is being leaned towards a little more.
    Sounds like where? What I'm hearing is that crit is better (still) for scholars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathgiver View Post
    I'm honestly confused why you even started this thread. If you're just going ignore what almost everyone is pointing out, why would you ask the question in the first place.
    The question wasn't to see what everyone's assumptions on what stat to prioritize are, the question was if anyone had any leads on the actual stat weights for scholars.

    I'm sorry if this sounds harsh but I wasn't asking for opinions, I was asking if anyone had seen the hard data.
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    Last edited by KopeAcetic; 03-19-2016 at 01:12 AM.

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    Krystalan Deathgiver
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    Quote Originally Posted by KopeAcetic View Post
    The question wasn't to see what everyone's assumptions on what stat to prioritize are, the question was if anyone had any leads on the actual stat weights for scholars.

    I'm sorry if this sounds harsh but I wasn't asking for opinions, I was asking if anyone had seen the hard data.
    Nobody has nailed down firm stat weights for dpsing on sch, but oyou can check Dervy's blog on wordpress to get a better understanding of why everyone is saying crit. https://dervyxiv.wordpress.com/stat-weights/

    edit: Just to clarify Dervy's stat weights are where the stat weights on Ariyala's tool come from. When he get's to healers eventually Ariyala's tool will reflect his numbers.
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    Last edited by Deathgiver; 03-19-2016 at 01:25 AM.

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    Periwinkle Cockscomb
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    get all the crit gear you can, slot it with accuracy
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