Why do people not understand A8?

[Synestra]

I got a tank mate who din't know how to tank swap...

There is tank swaps in Midas normal?.. Oh nvm i always soak shit from MT with Cover and keep deepsing while popping some CD's, i wonder how many times those random DF healers goes apeshit when they see OT's HP dropping like a fly instead of MT's. Loving Cover in Midas as it literally brakes all fights in there, A7 is propably only one where you might need to do one swap if you run it with random co-tank but if MT is one you know you can relay hes CD usage and toss some big fat 10k clemencies till the stacks drop.

[MXMoondoggie]

There is tank swaps in Midas normal?.. Oh nvm i always soak shit from MT with Cover and keep deepsing while popping some CD's, i wonder how many times those random DF healers goes apeshit when they see OT's HP dropping like a fly instead of MT's. Loving Cover in Midas as it literally brakes all fights in there, A7 is propably only one where you might need to do one swap if you run it with random co-tank but if MT is one you know you can relay hes CD usage and toss some big fat 10k clemencies till the stacks drop.

There are Tanks who know what they are doing that can just soak the damage quite easily with Healers throwing out mitigation and topping them up. I'm comfortable with doing it either way even in DF so long as they are actually paying attention instead of sleeping and just expecting Healers to keep topping them up while not using defensive CD's at all. They go down pretty fast and don't seem to understand why.

[Alistaire]

Perpetual Ray=Tank Swap if you follow that I doubt you'd have an issue. Otherwise 3 stacks.

It's really such an unnecessary tank swap though. Definitely be aware that there are some offtanks that'll get downright rude about insisting on swapping, but just pop a cooldown for it otherwise.

Pretty much the only spot in midas normal that'll wreck you if you don't swap are the 2nd/4th bosses in A6. Even A5 swap during concussion is more "necessary" than A8 spot.

[KogaDrake]

It's really such an unnecessary tank swap though. Definitely be aware that there are some offtanks that'll get downright rude about insisting on swapping, but just pop a cooldown for it otherwise.

I am guessing that you often bring your own healers?? I can solo tank all of midas normal if I have my FC healers with me, but in DF with random healers I see tanks dieing with 2 stacks all the time. Yesterday I watched tanks dieing to perpetual ray, none the less the hits that follow

[Alistaire]

I am guessing that you often bring your own healers?? I can solo tank all of midas normal if I have my FC healers with me, but in DF with random healers I see tanks dieing with 2 stacks all the time. Yesterday I watched tanks dieing to perpetual ray, none the less the hits that follow

No. And no even with healers I trust I still wouldn't want to solo tank 2nd/4th boss in A6. Those are legit necessary.

Also as WAR most of the healing needed after ray I do myself, so healer quality doesn't even matter.

[Werhusky]

The problem I experience all over is low DPS... If you get first Execution at 65% of Onslaughter you know you gonna wipe and you still try and waste 10 mins on it >.>

[Galborion]

The problem I experience all over is low DPS... If you get first Execution at 65% of Onslaughter you know you gonna wipe and you still try and waste 10 mins on it >.>

This! Mechanics are easy, but people can't DPS properly.

[oph]

This! Mechanics are easy, but people can't DPS properly.

This and this.

Having all mechanics checked is important, but there's no point if DPS is low and you can't meet the light DPS checks. Wiping from enrage in A8 is one of the saddest things since you'll have to start all over again against Onslaught.

[Alistaire]

This! Mechanics are easy, but people can't DPS properly.

When I see problems there it's more about mechanics, mainly people baiting the circle aoe's all over the place making gathering for the split damage impossible. Also the gathering for the double cannon move.

[StouterTaru]

Having all mechanics checked is important, but there's no point if DPS is low and you can't meet the light DPS checks. Wiping from enrage in A8 is one of the saddest things since you'll have to start all over again against Onslaught.

I've only seen enrage on it once, and that was my first time in. Low dps was due to deaths, not low dps. Tanks died repeatedly (one attempt MT died about 15 seconds in, before first set of adds), healers were casting raise on tanks while dps were beat on, dps die.