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    The crafter signature should be invisible on the market board till the a player adquieres the item... But hey,we have the most primitive market board in the current MMORPG market.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander_Dragonfang View Post
    The crafter signature should be invisible on the market board till the a player adquieres the item... But hey,we have the most primitive market board in the current MMORPG market.
    I've always been able to see who the maker is before buying...
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    Quote Originally Posted by AskaRay View Post
    I've always been able to see who the maker is before buying...
    No he said it should be, so he can safely undercut without getting angry tells about it later, or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    No he said it should be, so he can safely undercut without getting angry tells about it later, or something.
    Ahh okay

    I mean. It doesn't matter to me one way or the other; I never pay attention to who makes the item.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander_Dragonfang View Post
    The crafter signature should be invisible on the market board till the a player adquieres the item... But hey,we have the most primitive market board in the current MMORPG market.
    I have to ask, why? I've never seen anybody complain about this until now. FFXIV's market isn't all too bad, at least in comparison to Black Desert.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colorful View Post
    I have to ask, why? I've never seen anybody complain about this until now. FFXIV's market isn't all too bad, at least in comparison to Black Desert.
    Plenty of complaints have been raised about XIV's market system. A few that I can think of off hand would be the following:

    -Seller'sCrafter's name listed on crafted items - can have people harass you over listed prices, whether or not you are the one who listed it or not
    -No way to buy partial stacks
    -No listing fee which means people can baby sit items and adjust prices as much as they want with no penalty
    -No way to place buy orders

    I'm sure there are other things, others can chime in as they like Also, it is never a good tactic to try and defend something by claiming "It can always be worse!"
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    Last edited by Skivvy; 03-17-2016 at 08:10 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    -Seller's name listed on crafted items - can have people harass you over listed prices
    If the item you sell is actually made by you. I re-sold quite a few items made by someone else because I simply didn't need them in the rather large quantity they sold them at. It was still their name that showed up, not mine.

    And, uh...if I couldn't see the signature on the crafted item, I'd like to have it removed entirely when it goes over the MB >_> I'm the kind of buyer who'd rather shell out a few more gil than wear something that has the name on it I do not like for one reason or the other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
    And, uh...if I couldn't see the signature on the crafted item, I'd like to have it removed entirely when it goes over the MB >_> I'm the kind of buyer who'd rather shell out a few more gil than wear something that has the name on it I do not like for one reason or the other.
    I'm a big foggy on the details since it has been ages, but I believe in XI, names disappeared once they were listed on the auction house. So if you wanted to wear something with a name, you had to do a personal trade.

    I get that some people like seeing their name around the city, but it would be nice to also have the option to remove the names entirely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    -Seller's name listed on crafted items - can have people harass you over listed prices
    Does this actually happen? It's never happened to me before, but I've always been a little paranoid about it. I really don't like signatures for that reason, and I doubt anyone actually pays attention to the signatures on the equipment someone is using. I've always thought it was silly to have an anonymous retainer system for selling goods, but then slap the crafter's name down on everything and show it on the MB listings.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
    If the item you sell is actually made by you. I re-sold quite a few items made by someone else because I simply didn't need them in the rather large quantity they sold them at. It was still their name that showed up, not mine.
    That's another problem with it, though. I feel weird re-selling an item that has another crafter's name on it if I purchased more than I needed. ;_; And you could potentially abuse it I guess, but I doubt anyone would take the time.
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    Last edited by Aethaeryn; 03-17-2016 at 06:58 AM. Reason: copypaste derp

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aethaeryn View Post
    Does this actually happen? It's never happened to me before, but I've always been a little paranoid about it. I really don't like signatures for that reason, and I doubt anyone actually pays attention to the signatures on the equipment someone is using. I've always thought it was silly to have an anonymous retainer system for selling goods, but then slap the crafter's name down on everything and show it on the MB listings.
    It happens, and a lot, if you are in a minimally organized crafting LS/group you will see how its basically a daily topic about X or Y guy market behavior, and many go as far as "talking them into reason" when it comes to pricing, several times i`ve been either nicely suggested to change my market behavior or harassed, and sometimes i`ve felt the need to do it to others too (good thing im a good guy!) just because sometimes the market board is ughghhajsdhasdkjas...
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