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    Adventica6's Avatar
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    If they just gave the mount to everyone it wouldn't be as cool as it is now,

    This isn't wow where the loser still gets a ribbon.

    ffxi was king and set a standard for how rng loot payouts work, 0/200? try 1/620 for stuff in xi. Just because the game is newer doesn't mean it needs to be easier.

    With your plan, I would do 10 bismarks a day, for 10 days, and have the mount... see how that works? then everyone will have it.

    nty
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    Riley Fuller
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    Faerie
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    Monk Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Adventica6 View Post
    If they just gave the mount to everyone it wouldn't be as cool as it is now,

    This isn't wow where the loser still gets a ribbon.

    ffxi was king and set a standard for how rng loot payouts work, 0/200? try 1/620 for stuff in xi. Just because the game is newer doesn't mean it needs to be easier.

    With your plan, I would do 10 bismarks a day, for 10 days, and have the mount... see how that works? then everyone will have it.

    nty
    First off, xiv =/= xi. That thinking really needs to die.

    Secondly, yes I can do the math too. 10 runs a day, 10 days. Awesome. You banged it out quick. What about the person who can do 20 a day? 5 days. Now, think about the average player, only getting a handful of hours an evening to play. Say they do 3 runs a day, along with their other things they gotta do. Roulettes, their weekly void ark run, beast tribe dailies, centurio seal hunts, if they have a static trying at midas savage, ect. If they do 3 runs a day for a little over a month they'll get it. What if they can't play or do those 3 runs every single day for a month straight? Will take them even longer. That's all to say that they don't get lucky and a whistle drops, they roll high and get it after say 10 runs. (and this is just bismark ex for example) Cause each bird will take 99 of their primal's token to purchase.

    Going for all 4? Your way you'd have them all in 40 days. The average joe/jill, it'll be July before they see their final one if they do 3 runs a day every single day without missing a day, which is SOOOOOO unlikely that it's laughable.

    The whole suggestion, is just a way to go with WHY they put the tokens in originally was for the weapons. To counteract RNG screwing some players over.
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    Last edited by Dorander; 03-14-2016 at 07:48 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adventica6 View Post
    If they just gave the mount to everyone it wouldn't be as cool as it is now,

    This isn't wow where the loser still gets a ribbon.

    ffxi was king and set a standard for how rng loot payouts work, 0/200? try 1/620 for stuff in xi. Just because the game is newer doesn't mean it needs to be easier.

    With your plan, I would do 10 bismarks a day, for 10 days, and have the mount... see how that works? then everyone will have it.

    nty
    For Ravana and Bismarck, the only thing that having a bird at this point means is that you were able to beat RNG. That is not an accomplishment - horrible drop rates do not make a game "hard".

    If you are looking to feel special for awhile, I'd recommend farming the other two. Not many group are clearing those successfully at this time and you can feel superior for awhile until the main player base catches up.

    This game is INSANELY casual. I played XI for years, and I loved it, but it's ridiculous to try and compare XIV to XI. New games don't have to be easy, but the developers of this specific game have chosen to go that route. If you aren't able to obtain a bird after 100 runs, it just means that RNG hates you, and that gets frustrating for a lot of people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    For Ravana and Bismarck, the only thing that having a bird at this point means is that you were able to beat RNG. That is not an accomplishment - horrible drop rates do not make a game "hard".

    If you are looking to feel special for awhile, I'd recommend farming the other two. Not many group are clearing those successfully at this time and you can feel superior for awhile until the main player base catches up.

    This game is INSANELY casual. I played XI for years, and I loved it, but it's ridiculous to try and compare XIV to XI. New games don't have to be easy, but the developers of this specific game have chosen to go that route. If you aren't able to obtain a bird after 100 runs, it just means that RNG hates you, and that gets frustrating for a lot of people.
    Can't agree with this more. Further more, you only get a token/totem for a successful run. I personally don't know how many times with just rav ex and bis ex that I've had parties that just didn't have the dps or the tanks (for bis ex) just couldn't do the tank swap. So that took even more time with not even the consolation prize of a token.
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